INTRODUCTION IV

Part IV:  What Is the Actual Purpose of the Patriot Act?

Terrorism is not destroying America!

The War on Terror, IS!...

 

05/18/2009:  New link placed on this page showing the post we said Google refused to publish.  The incident took place because of bold public posts on that system saying that all who are not Catholic should be persecuted and killed.  Though condemning us all the time for hate in exposing these posts, they refused to condemn the posts for hate.  We then showed them the Jesuit Oath and they said that they cannot condemn that oath because it is fake and was contrived to embarrass Rome.  We then asked them if we concocted a fake oath from our backyards and declared that Rome created so we can embarrass Rome, they then can't condemn it for hate?  We tried over and over again to post that documentation and statement on the Google system and it never worked till we posted it again months later.

Bush keeps saying that he needs the "tools" necessary in the Patriot Act to keep America safe!  Why didn't all the other presidents before him say,

"HUUGGGHHH???  We didn't need the Patriot Act all during our tenures!    We never claimed we needed such a package.  Maybe it was because we were not determined to be honored, rewarded or empowered for FAILING to protect the American public instead of SUCCEEDING?  What did we offer the American people other than protection?  Chicken-livers??"

Why then is it that the Inquisitions, and the nazi and communist regimes all had the exact same "tools" Bush claims he also must have to protect their people?  What did these regimes of history do with these "tools" and how did they protect their people with them?

THEY DIDN'T!!

They didn't protect their people with these "TOOLS."  THEY MADE THEM VICTIMS USING THEM.  THOSE WERE THE TOOLS OF DEATH-ENGINE GOVERNMENTS!

That is why Bush said he couldn't tolerate the 1978 FISA laws requiring court approval for wiretaps because that law was too, "OUTDATED!"

LIKE FASCISTS LEADERS OF ALL HISTORY, BUSH, IN HIS FAREWELL ADDRESS, CLAIMED THAT HE ACTED ACCORDING TO HIS CONSCIENCE AND WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.  THIS, HOWEVER REQUIRED HIM TO REPUDIATE THE DIRECTIVES OF THE CONSTITUTION AFTER DECLARING ALLEGIANCE TO IT!  He became the only president to think it was right to finance "WARS FOR FREEDOM" through Communist China.  Communist China obviously saw benefit to fund Bush's wars.  China also hates freedom.

The situation is just like the propagandists we interview on this website who even told us that the Constitution of the United States is "Incredibly stupid and outdated."  These gave unyielding support to Bush and then declared that all who are not Catholic should be persecuted and killed.

Every fascist dictator of history always did what he thought was right and acted in behalf of his own conscience.  Still, true to the wholesale treason as Democrats and Republicans and independents watched the lies, the tragedies that happened under Bush can happen under Obama or any other president anyway, FOR NONE OF THEM EVER MENTIONED THE FACT THAT THE BUSH PRESIDENCY PROVES BETTER THAN ALL ELSE THAT DISREGARDING OR HATING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES WILL ALWAYS LEAD TO TRAGEDY!  Thinking that it is right to start wars for "global democracy" at the sacrifice of multitudes of innocents, and then showing every day he doesn't care what the American people or the entire globe thinks, is the fascist dilemma of whether, in America, he was elected to follow his judgments that proved wrong 100% of the time and proudly disregard his public oaths of allegiance to the Constitution in front of his global victims.

With all the blood murderously spilled crying out to God for vengeance, the American people look away from Bush and his vast team of nation-destroyers dominating all political parties and branches of American government and actually believe that Obama or any other mortal will stop this country from falling without showing some accountability for the blood she wantonly shed!


As treason and tyranny grows and escalates many offers for huge, feature-rich free email accounts, blogs and social networks like MySpace will become more attractive and literally thrown at us.  In the near future the information placed into these avenues will be seized by the government.  We discuss here how that information will be used.

NEW!!  IQ TESTERS!

Updated 10/27/2008

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/iqexhibits.htm
This first of two pages gives major tests of the intelligence of the American people and the rest of the global population as it relates to the political revolutions that are taking place all around them!  The scriptures tell us that just before Jesus comes the global population will suffer a serious intelligence problem.  Let's see if that is true!

WHO ARE OUR ENEMIES, THIS TIME!!  Enemies which caused America to beat the war drums and become concerned about security, came and went!!  What happened to them when America beat them in conflict AND WHEN SHE DID NOT??

NEW!!  THE CHURCH IS ONE!  How is it and why is it that Jesus Christ Himself couldn't understand that THE CHURCH IS ONE??

INTRODUCTION PARTS:

BOLD PUBLIC DEATH THREATS AGAINST ALL WHO ARE NOT CATHOLIC POSTED JUST AFTER 911 AND OUR NEW ERA OF TERROR!  POSTED AFTER THE PATRIOT ACT BY FLAGRANT BUSH SUPPORTERS!

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapI.htm
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapLeoWest.htm
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapLeoWest2.htm

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapBeliefnet.htm

 

 

Part 5 http://www.TheirSecrets.info/iraqwar.htm
What is the actual purpose for war.  Not just the Iraq war, but virtually every other America has had.  The bible itself shows that what comes after war is tyranny!  A brief insight to how this takes place.

THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, VS "THE BAD BOYS!" ...  A sad, heart-rending showing as members of the US military on forums post EMPHATICALLY how America will lose its honor, strength and liberty, OVER THEIR DEAD BODIES!  All this compared with scripture which says precisely THAT IT WILL DO JUST THAT!

WHO ARE OUR ENEMIES, THIS TIME!!  Enemies which caused America to beat the war drums and become concerned about security, came and went!!  What happened to them when America beat them in conflict AND WHEN SHE DID NOT??

HOSTILITY AND WHAT CAUSES IT!...  Why some of our worst enemies which cost us so much and challenged our very existence, wound up now being called our friends!  Important message about the behavior of our national leaders and current society that will lead to dangerous and traumatic events in just the near future! 

Part 1: http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapIntro.htm
What is actually going on under the new movements that are radically changing America and the rest of the world.

Part 2 http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapIntro2.htm
Our Bold Move, showing how we entered into debate with some very strange people who encouraged all kinds of conflicting debates and classes, AND WON!  These strange people understand what the American citizens do not, about shocking events soon to overtake them.  A strange message from heaven showing the world there is no excuse for its current confusion, and that failing to search into end-time prophecies will result in a curse upon all.

Part 3 http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapIntro3.htm
Why does the bible curse anyone who refuses to look into the prophecies?  Simple examples from prophecy showing what heaven thinks of the intelligence of the world today and what actually are the worst global problems few are noticing.

Part 6 http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapIntro6.htm
This page shows that everything that is taking place against American principle currently is happening because of infiltration into our society by militant infiltrationist Jesuits.  That is a generic term that we use to identify all the orders of the Papacy that constantly work to acquire positions in every area of life in our society with the pre-meditated intent to destroy it and to reinstall the Inquisitions.  We reveal some of their typical tactics here.

Part 7 http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapMark666.htm
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS??  A strange and horrible dilemma and predicament will face the entire globe very soon.  It will bring on the greatest crisis in the history of the earth!  This predicament is coming at lightning speed totally undetected by the world.  The bible itself shows that what comes after war is tyranny!  A brief insight to how this takes place.

Part 8 http://www.TheirSecrets.info/majultimatum.htm
A most amazing major future development will create a great crisis.  We look more specifically into what this crisis will entail on this page.  This crisis will cause even God's people to literally fight with all desperation for their entitlement to the after-life.  This same crisis will cause the rest of the global population to achieve a terrible accountability of guilt that will force each one of them to receive a damnation far above even any of the murderers or serial killers of the 20th century!

 

Would you like to be a prophet?  Would you like to be able to predict the future?  Well many have already done that without ever even knowing it!  The following interview took place around 1990.

WATCH!...

Doctor of Divinity, Dr. Bob Trefz speaks to a pastor about major events of history. See if you see something very odd with what he is saying...
 

Bob Trefz: In the Spanish Inquisitions, the most pious and the most holy celebration of the Papacy was the Ado De Fe, the burning of heretics at the stake. And here I have Henry Charles Lee's History of the Inquisition of Spain. Now Henry Charles Lee is the definitive work on this subject. He went into the very archives of Spain. It was called the Celebrado in the Spanish Inquisition, the service of burning people at the stake. They would have choirs singing Te Deums. They would have a thousand notables marching. The king would be present. And here's a chapter called, "The Celebration" right here. The Celebration. The Celebration of the Ado de fe. And if people found that they were losing their nerve as they watched people burning at the stake and wanted reconciliation with the church, they could request that and the Inquisitors would speak with them. And if they decided to grant them reconciliation, then Canon Law said that they had to spend the rest of their days in prison.

So you were faced, in the Inquisition, if you were even suspect of being a heretic, and Leonard Levy, in his Origins of the Fifth Amendment, a Pulitzer Prize winning book in 1969, says that anyone that got in the coils of the Inquisition, of all of those individuals, there is not one record of anyone escaping unscathed. So once you were suspected, that was it. And it was the stake, if you were faithful, and imprisonment if you recanted.

Pastor: So you had to be so totally against the heretics to escape even being caught. It kind of like reminds me of the French Revolution, to where anybody that was even suspect of being a sympathizer was taken to the guillotine.

Bob Trefz: .... Henry Charles Lee also has a definitive work on the Inquisition of the Middle Ages. And he tells in this book... He tells of how the Inquisitors would come into an area. They would call all the population out. Everyone was to tell everything they knew about any heretic. There was only one area that escaped from this, and that was because the people covenanted not to tell on each other, and the Inquisitors couldn't do anything. It was still in the early stages of the Inquisition. They had ways of dealing with that later on. But, betrayal of others was the proof of conversion you see. And what happened was the Inquisition was designed to instill TERROR in the population: utter fear so that the people would subject themselves, tell everything they knew, they [the Inquisitors] had records of everything across Europe, and any heretic their genealogy was examined and they kept records for generations.


The difference between Roman Catholic Canon Law and English Common Law and American constitutionalism is that our whole system of law that we have in America rests upon English Common Law, which battled against Canon Law in providing safeguards and guarantees for the people of England and then ultimately in America.

For instance: under Canon Law you can be arrested in the middle of the night under suspicion because of rumor. The judge can make the decision to have you arrested himself. You can be arrested in the middle of the night. Your family don't know where you've gone. You're in prison. You can be judged by the Judge in secret, and put to death in secret. No one ever knows what happened to you... there in the Dark Ages....

[This is termed today "National Security", where, for the Inquisitions to remain healthy, the slightest suspicion of disaffection by the people caused them to be sacrificed daily.  Knowing that to reveal their brutality would spell the demise of the whole system, for it's own SECURITY, it adopted SECRECY.  The Inquisitions, the Communists and the Nazis had security principles that basically only protected the death-engine governments they erected, along with themselves, at the expense of all else.  SECRECY was a must for all of them in their form of "National Security"Constitutional security we enjoyed till the influx of globalist politicians protected especially the people.]

Now, under English Common Law, first of all, if someone comes and takes you away in the middle of the night, your wife can get a Writ of Habeus Corpus to demand the jailer to show what cause why you are in prison. Here's the body. You bring the body up out of the jail. Here's the reason he's in. And then the accusations have to be made in public by an accuser. The judge is impartial. There is a jury that decides of your peers that decides whether you are guilty or innocent. And then the impartial judge would mete out the sentence. And in our whole Bill of Rights there is the defense against Roman Catholic Canon Law.

Now that's why, with the new supreme court which has been brought into position through the use of the abortion issue... the new Judiciary and the new Executive and Legislative aspects of our government are all slanted now in the direction in which we are rolling back the clock and we're moving back to Canon Law. [Even while Bush claims he cannot accept the 1978 FISA law demanding court-ordered wiretaps because the law is too old or "outdated?"  YES!!]

Even in decisions like Arizona vs. Fulmonatti, the dissenting justices said, "We have now in this case turned away from our accusatorial legal system and accepted the inquisitorial system," because now forced-confessions could be accepted in court.


Dr. Bob Trefz here took on the office of a prophet.  Why?  Because in his statements he is describing the Inquisitions.  What you don't realize is that he is describing something else.  He is describing...

THE PATRIOT ACT!! 

THAT'S 11 YEARS BEFORE 911!

MANY HAVE DESCRIBED THE PATRIOT ACT DECADES BEFORE THIS INTERVIEW.  ALL ONE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS TO DESCRIBE THE INQUISITIONS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D6fxyOtVeI
President Bush's Nazi background!  Well known information about the history of the Bush family.  They, knowing it is really not a secret, and yet pretending it is not an issue and doesn't even exist, coupled with America not even considering the issue serious shows that they know they have already conquered America!

We met strange people on the internet who invited us to talk about our church: the Seventh-day Adventist Church.  They claimed to be former Seventh-day Adventists that had left for various reasons.  They claimed that they held tolerance and diversity as high principles that must be obeyed by all.  It worked out that later they revealed to us that they were either dismissed from the Seventh-day Adventist Church, or left on their own due to the fact the Adventist Church would not accept their beliefs.  Hence they claimed that it was an intolerant organization that doesn't even understand the spirit of America to respect disagreement. 

Just as soon as we agreed to talk about the church, they began to post constant intolerant attacks against it with virtually every post.  They then revealed an agenda.  They told us that we must surrender any belief we have that separates us from the rest of the Christian Churches so that we must unite with them all to form one big global church.  They urged us to do this, but at times they made us to know that it was an imperative and that we MUST do this in order to accept, "the pure, pure gospel."

Having an intolerant gospel that claims it must be accepted was a telling clue to who those people were.  All throughout the Reformation, the Protestants told Rome that the Gospel does not force itself on anyone.  Christ knocks on the door of each heart and begs for entrance, while the Vatican claimed that Christ carried a battering ram to that door. 

Anyone who knows history knows that Rome has always been working to get at least the Christian churches to unite with each other and with her.  The Protestant churches always refused since Rome always required that all these churches compromise their beliefs in order to unite, and that Rome will dominate this union and begin giving them orders.  With that will naturally follow secret trials, imprisonment, torture, etc. for all who do not follow her demands.  That is why this was never a new proposition, but the churches are still not united to this day.  There are other means of getting all the churches to unite though.  One way is by CREATING CRISES that could never befall America and the world before!

Of course, the very major doctrines of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, as were all the Protestant churches, forbids any such a uniting, and naturally forbids dismissal of its doctrines.  The strange people therefore continued their attacks.  As we beat them in dialogue constantly, they kept accusing us of "hate" constantly.  We identified them as the Jesuits.  They put in their centuries strong wind-up-key and announced how we hate all Catholics even though at times they claim not to be Catholic, but former Adventists.  As they therefore attacked, claiming that the Adventist Church had false prophecies or its main pioneering leader plagiarized documents, we revealed crimes that were much worse: including multitudes of people being viciously slaughtered by Rome.  We revealed statements from Rome in major irreversible letters that claimed that freedom is heresy; that no one has a right to choose religion based upon his conscience; that all who were not Catholic are subject to be killed by Rome.  After showing great sensitivity to what they call, "hatred" based upon us "name-calling" them Jesuits, they yawned away every atrocity and every statement of Rome condemning freedom and multitudes of people.  Every time we revealed those statements of death, they turned all the hatred in those statements upon us with constant intolerant accusations of hatred.

We then revealed about the Ustashis of WWII.  These were people who lived in the then Yugoslavia, who, upon realizing that Adolf Hitler was very strong, and believing that he would take over the world, decided to show their true colors.  They launched the recorded most vicious and unspeakable attacks against the non-Catholic portion of their country to such an extent that the Nazis themselves were shocked.  They mutilated their victims and tortured them.  They pushed them off of cliffs, pushed them live into furnaces, broke the skulls of their infants on rocks, forced groups of them into trenches with tied hands and then sent an executioner with a sledge hammer to break their skulls one by one.  These are just the beginning of the atrocities they performed.  We showed documentation where the Ustashis stated they did all this in order to make sure that their country becomes "100% Catholic."  This was history repeating in the modern age.  To this date, the strange self-appointed definers of the word, "hate" made sure they never said a single off word against the Ustashis of WWII, but even told us that to attack them is to hate Catholics.  One of the strange ones claimed that just one leader in our church is worse than the Ustashis who slaughtered over 1,000,000 people in our modern age.  We later found out that the Ustashis are literally regarded as their heroes, and actual saints.  We were always attacked when we brought them up, and we were kicked off of a number of forums for even bringing them up.

We then showed them the Jesuit Oath.  The Jesuit Oath is the absolute worst collection of horrible words known to man.  No curse nor words of hate can ever match the collected words of the Jesuit Oath.  It talks about the soldiers of the Pope infiltrating every area of society from as high as politics to a janitor.  It talks about them occupying many different conflicting seats: even opposing each other as a false front, which accounts for why we say we are about to be surprised since much of what is happening with the Bush Administration today is being done through secret support from the Democrats and even those who have strongly condemned President Bush!  [Note:  This particular statement was written well before the 2006 elections.  Situations worked out just as we predicted and the Democratic Congress MARVELOUSLY and PROFOUNDLY betrayed the American people!]  It talks about them killing enemies openly, and if that can't be done, then secretly.  It talks about them making "relentless war" against their enemies, persisting with everything they do and every lie they tell.  It talks about them cutting out babies out of the womb of mothers who are non-Catholics and doing anything and everything to exterminate, "their execrateable [or cursed] race."  As soon as we brought that up, they accused us of hate.  We asked them what they thought of the words there.  Their intolerant reply was that WE were full of "supreme hate."  We pressed them, since they always intolerantly claimed to be the definers of what is hate for the world, to comment on the words.  They refused to do that.

They claimed that the Jesuit Oath was fake.  They claimed that someone created it in order to embarrass Rome.  We replied that if that is even true, tell us about the hate in it anyway.  For a long time they refused.  We pressed them more and more and exposed their weird behavior, even saying no wonder if anyone believes there is a conspiracy, they hyperventilate.

Finally they began to say to the effect of, "Ok, I condemn the oath entirely.  You happy now?"  We remarked why we, being constantly accused by them of hate, can easily condemn the most hateful collected words known to man, and they have to struggle to do it.  But then we noticed they were trying to pull the wool over our eyes.  We therefore demanded that they SPECIFICALLY condemn the hatred in the words of the Oath line by line.  They began to, as is their talent, lie their heads off.  They began to say that they condemned the Oath entirely, and therefore don't need to do it anymore.  We replied that they condemned us entirely also, and then don't need to do it anymore.  Ignoring what we were saying, they rambled on and asked what is the point of condemning that Oath line by line with each of its vile clauses.  We replied by asking them why they condemned us day after day, hour after hour and minute after minute and what is the point of doing that.  We therefore asked them again and again to condemn the worst most hateful collection of words known to man SPECIFICALLY as they do us, and AT LEAST JUST IN THE WAY THEY CONDEMN US CONSTANTLY AND CURSE US.  They still refused over and over again.

Finally one strange person made the final sacrifice.  He said alright.  He then said that he condemns every hateful line and every hateful word in "the lie" the Jesuit Oath.  They started to constantly refer to the Jesuit Oath we were showing them as, "the lie" the Jesuit Oath.  He again asked us if we were happy.  Of course, we are not stupid.  As horrible as the Jesuit Oath is, it is quite obvious that there is not a single word of that Oath that is hateful to these strange people.  So we knew he was using mental reservation and trying to trick us with words.  He claimed he condemned every hateful word in it, meaning if there are any.  To him, there are none!

They then, like mannequins, kept repeating that the Jesuit Oath is a lie and a fake.  They constantly referred to it mechanically as, "the lie, the Jesuit Oath" as if they were acknowledging there were different versions of this Oath (and there are) that say the same things, but the one we refer to they don't actually regard.  They then said that it was created by hateful Protestants in order to embarrass Rome.  Our next question is that if that is true, why all the more they can't condemn it--not even the people who post threats in compliance with it?  Their replies again were that the Jesuit Oath is a lie, a fake, a forgery, mechanically.  On the internet, they apparently think we are just as stupid as their brothers dominating world affairs think you are.  At least two long-running dialogues yielded the same result from different people and areas of the internet entirely!  We then had to tell them, "You mean if we concocted a fake oath and dug it up from our back yards and claimed that Rome created it so that we can embarrass Rome, you then cannot condemn it?"  Not only did they ignore the question period, but it was if the Google Archives system had had enough.  Google refused to archive that question.  We posted that question over and over again and Google refused to allow that "precious" fake Oath to be so clearly defined.  We had to actually type the posts that were sent and cannot show you links where Google archived it.  [We waited months later and reposted that same question and finally it was archived by Google. CLICK HERE TO VIEW THAT POST!]

Many times we ask them if they believe all non-Catholics must die, and they would simply post, "no."  They know that is not what we want.  They stated it in such a way where it can be assumed that they were replying to another question.  That is not what we were challenging them to answer.  We would reply to them, "no what?"  They would respond, "no, what you asked."  We asked them to specifically state completely in their own words that under no circumstance are non-Catholics to die because they disagree with Rome.  They refused to do that.  Finally, after pressing, one of them finally said ok.  My question was already posted.  In reply, that poster repeats my question again in quotes and then finally says that all non-Catholics should not die for having religious differences with Rome.

The entire appearance made it look like I was harassing him into making that statement TO FUTURE REVIEWING COMMITTEES.

What therefore is all this about?  We then began to think.  These guys have already shown us that they are the absolute most unbelievable liars in the world.  How is it that they can't just lie and pretend and condemn the Jesuit Oath, true or fake, for the hate content in the words?  Then came the astonishing realization of why they could not.

If they were to be asked the same thing with us alone and face to face, they may have been able to condemn it.  But something was different this time.  We were posting on the Google Newsgroup Archives.  OUR WORDS WERE RECORDED.  Recorded by what?

RECORDED BY HOMELAND SECURITY!

Jack Chick has been saying that through global treason, a certain group of people, capturing positions of leadership worldwide, would reinstall the Inquisitions.  After that is done and they bring tyranny back, naturally they are going to be very paranoid about anyone threatening the tyranny they worked so hard for all throughout the history of this country.  They therefore, before that time, erect a system where they can record the words and thoughts of the American people.

Since they are going to install tyranny, persecution, atrocities and mutilations all over again, THEY WILL TARGET EVERYONE WHO HAS EXPRESSED ANY KIND OF CONDEMNATION TO THE ACTS THEY ARE PLANNING IN THE FUTURE.  If anyone specifically condemns tyranny based upon the acts they will commit in the future, that person will be sought out and condemned based upon his recorded words or thoughts made in the past from then THAT MAY BE COMPLETELY LEGAL TODAY!  They will go into history and condemn you just for that even in secret!

The national forefathers did not view that ANYONE should count it ok for the government to snoop on their private information based upon the idea that they have nothing to hide.  THEY KNEW THAT PRIVACY MUST BE PROTECTED BECAUSE WHEN AND IF THE GOVERNMENT INSTALLS TYRANNY AGAINST THE PEOPLE, THOUGHTS AND WISHES RECORDED THAT ARE COMPLETELY LEGAL IN A FREE COUNTRY MAY WELL BE OUTLAWED IN AN OPPOSITE GOVERNMENT THAT WOULD FOLLOW.

That is why specifically condemning atrocities is a litmus test where you can test Jack Chick's very vivid imagination.  If you ask people to specifically condemn the Jesuit Oath on the internet or some other public medium, you will find a certain class of people becoming very agitated and who will likely supplant doing that by condemning everything about you SPECIFICALLY and with the accusation of HATE. 

WE BELIEVE ACCUSATIONS OF TERRORISM, HATE, TREASON AND SEDITION WILL BE THE MAJOR DEATH WISH SENTENCES IN THE NEW GLOBAL GOVERNMENT TO COME!  These accusations will, in the future, cost the lives of millions of people.  WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JUST THE ACCUSATIONS ALONE!

What was Abu Ghraib?... 

Remember the Abu Ghraib prison scandal where our service men and women were caught on camera exercising orgies of torture and celebration over the Iraqis?

Abu Ghraib was a major CELEBRATION of internal victory over America where its treacherors demonstrated amazement at how America can be defeated even to her willingly destroying herself.  They gloried at the reigns of power they conquered, and performed preliminary exercises of the activities that always made them happy during the Dark Ages and Reformation that they know they will soon accomplish again!

The running dialogues on the website shows that this is a litmus test against those coined words they erected to hide their conspiracy: "Conspiracy Theorist."  That includes the fact that the President was asked specifically by a reporter whether or not persecution is immoral during the Abu Ghraib scandal and he side-stepped the question.  A Jesuit will not SPECIFICALLY condemn atrocities that will be planned in the future that is recorded on any public medium.  A Jesuit can state prior that he has a different DEFINITION of a certain word or terminology.  For example: the president already told us that he has a different definition of the word TORTURE than does the general public.  By saying that, the president can then boldly say that "America does not condone torture" even though it does by making detainees UNCOMFORTABLE!  He justifies himself by stating he has a different definition of the word TORTURE.  The same can be done with the claim of supporting "peace" and "security."  It is just like the bible prediction that a time would come when the world's population will cry "Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." (1 Thess. 5:3).  Now the world is crying "peace" and "security," and claiming that in the interest of peace and security, we must start wars and the American Constitution must be discarded or reinterpreted opposite to what it always stood for. 

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/AC/AppealChapII.htm

Ted Seeber

Notice how I said liberty as we know it today. We're talking about CONSTITUTIONAL liberty here. The enemies to it believe what they are supporting is liberty also just as Seeber does, BUT IN THEIR VERSION OF IT!  Seeber had already told us that PERSECUTION IS BIBLICAL!  Seeber told us that true liberty is being able to be put into chains so that we can resist the persecution and prove that we are in liberty. He made this statement in the midst of the following document:
[http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=LmQu7.5174%24T%254.390367%40sjcpnn01.usenetserver.com].  Yet he did not include himself nor his brothers to receive this form of liberty he was talking about.  He also called our understanding of liberty: "fake liberty:" That was on one of the posts given in the links above. An official Vatican document sides with this stance by saying:

"The church . . . does not, and cannot accept, or in any degree favor, liberty in the Protestant sense of liberty." -- (Catholic World, April, 1870.)

"Religious Liberty is merely endured UNTIL THE OPPOSITE CAN BE CARRIED INTO EFFECT WITHOUT PERIL TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." -- (Rt. Rev. O'Connor, Bishop of Pittsburgh.)

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/Grizogono.htm:
The deadliest killers of modern times, the Ustashis of WWII were defended by the Catholic Church.  Their crusades of horrible orgies of death and torture were to make Yugoslavia "100% Catholic."

Although the Ustashis of WWII were far more brutal than the Nazis, you are to ask why today's society knows very little about them. The reason for that is because there is a conspiracy, and Rome indeed secretly dominates the world even financially.  If there is a global financial meltdown, know that Rome is behind it!  If there is a lack of prosperity around the world, know that it's not because of natural causes.

In the efforts to bring those responsible to justice...

"The sentence against Stepinac was answered by the Vatican's Osseruatore Romano denouncing it as "ignominous" and said the "trial was a trial against the Catholic Church". (Ibid., 238) Francis Cardinal Spellman, Archbishop of New York, said that Archbishop Stepinac was "a victim of the forces that seek to destroy men's freedom, ruin America, and dominate the world." (Ibid., 238) He also said the Yugoslav Archbishop had "defended the cause of true liberty for his hungry and harassed people" through the war, adding that the person and principles of Archbishop Stepinac were "VIOLATED"." -- by Rebecca Sexton -- Former Catholics For Christ. 

[Note:  Remember the Catholics on the internet telling us that "true liberty" is the Inquisitions?  Remember them saying that I, in exposing Ted Seeber VIOLATED his right to his opinion that all non-Catholics must die irregardless of the fact his views VIOLATED the rights of non-Catholics TO LIVE??  The ones who most attacked me claimed to be non-Catholics and ADVENTISTS!  Besides the Constitution of the United States, what would you suppose they believe is tyranny??  Would they therefore want to make a "WAR ON TERROR??"] 

Here we are seeing that even the Inquisitions were regarded by Rome as LIBERTY!  Obviously, they regard the Constitution [as it presently stands and as they say is "interpreted"] as tyranny and Terror!  It prevents them from having the "fun" of torturing and mutilating all who do not accept their dogmas.  They erected a war against the Constitution and all freedom and called it, "THE WAR ON TERROR!"

Communists and Nazis all claimed that their modes of regimes were to protect "peace" and "security."  But history showed that they were brutal and monstrous people, who, after erecting their governments which became death engines, proved that their security principles were geared toward security only for their governments and regimes with the minorities who ran them, and not for the people.  That was why secrecy and the disarming of their victims to defend themselves was always such an urgent necessity.  The civilians of their governments were easily and daily sacrificed, especially if the leaders became paranoid that they were threats to the regime.  That's why the same ones struggling to make America become like that, easily accuse those who try to stop them of paranoia!  The most effective means of clouding all detection of who they are is by accusing innocent people of their own characteristics.  Therefore president Bush, or any other leader can claim to support "freedom" or even the Constitution of the United States, but, like our examples given in dialogues, they can mean the Constitution reinterpreted for the better good of the nation, under secret courts and trials, detainment camps, torture, etc.  The generic term we use for soldiers of the Pope is Jesuits.  They could belong to many different orders including communists, but are under the same agenda and have the same capabilities.

Ultimately after one particular and rabid strange person became emotional that we would even question the Patriot Act and unlimited powers of the President, and fought us with long engaging threads on the newsgroups shouting how we are terrorists and are tying the hands of the government to save this country, that same person slipped and wrote some very ominous words.  After we compared free America with the countries under the Inquisitions and even Catholic countries to date, we remarked that under current conditions America is going to fall.  In response he said with great satisfaction that America is already fallen "because of its own inadequacies."  He then replied that it is too late to save it now.  He then revealed that the Patriot Act was never designed to save any freedom or any America.  IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE OPPOSITE!  He slipped and didn't realize what he had done.  Why defend the Patriot Act as a vital law to save this country, as he claimed, and then later tell us it is already fallen and can't be saved?  Still, he remained adamant in telling all the lies he always had been telling.

In the main documentation we have a major atheist who died ten years after WWII who remarked about the fact that the Pope, during WWI refused to condemn the Axis powers for their brutality.  The Pope claimed that both sides shed blood and are bad: the same argument the strange people gave us to defend the Ustashis of WWII.  The worst forms of atrocities they refused to condemn, even though constantly self-appointing themselves to be the almighty definers of what is hate.  This atheist then remarked that the Vatican had ties to the Axis powers of WWI and WWII, while the Ex Jesuit Priest, Dr. Alberto Rivera, remarked that the Vatican had ties with the Axis powers of WWII.  Under the scenario of constantly struggling to install the Inquisitions upon the world, it is planned that her vast numbers of infiltrated followers would enact global treason and take over the world.  They then run an inquisition and slaughter by the millions based upon the recorded words and thoughts of the people.  The Pope will not be condemned because he will not SPECIFICALLY condemn those who do this nor their methods and actions.  He will not specifically tag them with the accusation of hate based upon their atrocities.  When all enemies are firmly and solidly eliminated, then they will move aside and allow the Pope to sit upon the throne of the world.

That's why one strange infiltrator poster on the internet who constantly defends Seventh-day Adventism (YOU HEARD RIGHT!  There were some who even defended the Seventh-day Adventist Church who worked against us for not liking mandates of death against all non-Catholics!  They actually hold membership to the SDA Church, but are actual infiltrators!) warned us and told us that WE ARE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE FOR NOT LIKING THE CURSES OF DEATH THAT WERE PRONOUNCED UPON ALL NON-CATHOLICS ON THE INTERNET: curses he also pulled out all stops not only to ignore, but to attack us for bringing them up.  We already knew that the statement was CORRECT!  We learned that afterwards. 

 

MENTAL RESERVATION:

The technique used by people in treason of carefully wording their statements to make it appear they are loyal to the regime they are attacking from the inside while not convicting themselves against a future tyrannical regime that will appear when that free regime is overturned and made into a death engine government.  At that time the new tyrannical regime, taking from data they received from surveillance of that former free regime (The Patriot Act with government snooping), will go into the history of words and thoughts recorded in the free regime in order to deal with those who may threaten the new regime.

Recently, as Bush was going aboard Air Force One, a reporter called out and asked him about the wars America is involved with in Iraq and Afghanistan.  The reporter asked him, "These wars, are they in our interests?"  Bush replied, "Sure they're in our interests!"

Can you guess what was the crucial mental reservation key word used in that statement to give that reporter the wrong impression?  Give up?  Well the key word is...

"OUR!"  ...

Whose interests?  The Constitutional-loving American majority?  Or the millions-strong minority in America living all around the majority who want the Inquisitions to return.

Don't believe me?  Think I'm mean?  Well remember that Communist Red China proved that these "wars for freedom" are in her interests too!  They sold their underwear to fund it presently to the tune of 1.5 trillion dollars!  These wars keep our troops chasing no-fly-zones while the Communist militaries remain intact, strong...  AND SANE!


MENTAL RESERVATION:
The McCain campaign used mental reservation when it claimed it was a campaign for CHANGE!  How can it claim to stand for CHANGE when most of McCain's policies are Bush policies also?

That's because...

BUSH HIMSELF IS FOR CHANGE!

CHANGING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC TO THE PRINCIPLES OF THE INQUISITIONS.  The idea is--to many who know--McCain needs to CONTINUE TO CHANGE America the way Bush has been.

 


MENTAL RESERVATION:

Shortly after the "Mission Accomplished" statement in 2003 after the first successful strikes against Iraq and we found out there actually were no WMDs, President Bush maintained his position and actually verbalized that he would have attacked Iraq anyway even if there were no WMDs.  Why?  He said in order to "SAVE AMERICA."

Bush needed the wars to finally "SAVE AMERICA" from the hold that the "HERETICS" have long had upon it and that has been maintained by their "HERETIC-DEFENDING" sons and daughters in the military.  Posters on the internet told us that America is "REBELLION against King George," and that they once owned this land till they were "up-ended by REBELS!" 

The wars purge away their enemies, both of loyal constitutional troops, and much of the populations of the Arabs and Muslims through the treachery of some of their high Muslim leaders for the New World Order.  The wars keep the Communist troops rested and prepared to join with what remains FOR THE SLAUGHTER!

Iraq and Afghanistan are unique places designed to PURGE away constitutional American troops while leaving the communist militaries totally in tact!  It is to ultimately render the United States military a secretly tyrannical organization--taking away by death those who are not tyrannical.  Such are specially selected for the front lines so that they can be taken out of the way so that nothing would restrain the treason among us from installing a period of even global nuclear terror.  The American military that remains now mostly contains soldiers both men and women who have the same world views and capabilities as the communist Chinese and Russian militaries.  Although they, like many even among us in civil society, are very good at hiding these attributes, THEY WILL SOON SHOW IT IN FULL FORCE AND NOTHING WILL STOP THEM!  THEY WILL ESPECIALLY BE ABLE TO SHOW  IT...

IN SECRET!

THEY WILL SHED BLOOD LIKE NEVER WAS IN THE HISTORY OF THE GLOBE!

 

WARNING:  Any attempt to dismantle the Patriot Act may well prove to be disastrous.  The ones who constantly tell us what a vital law the Patriot Act is dominate our protection system in the United States government.  An attempt to dismantle this law will likely tempt them to allow another terror attack in so that we can see the virtue of it.

President Obama dismantling the Patriot Act may well be shown to be a means for more terror attacks to show the world that the Constitution of the United States can no longer protect her.  We are far less safe now than we were before Bush became president.  More terror attacks are much more likely now BECAUSE EVEN MILITARY PERSONNEL THAT CAN DETER THEM HAVE BEEN KILLED IN FALSE WARS.  The best time for this to be shown by those who more have control on the reigns of terror is for Obama to dismantle the Patriot Act.

When and only when and if you can dismantle the Patriot Act and those who created it, then the problem will be taken care of.  Otherwise we are in a very perplexing circumstance!  That is our present situation!

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