KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE ONLY?? WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL ANYWAY!!
The Translators of the Other Bible Versions, ARE LOST!
Created 11/29/2007;
Updated 09/08/2009:
Updated 09/27/2010:
Links of Dr. Walter Vieth's presentations exposing the new version bibles that
were removed on Youtube have been replaced here!
WHY WOULD YOU
WANT TO ACCEPT BIBLES MADE BY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOST?
Have
you tried to memorize scripture yet with all the different bible versions
hovering all around? Have you already set up a program to memorize
scripture? Has your church? What did you find? We challenge
you to establish bible memorization programs in your churches according to the
instructions given from the Spirit of Prophecy below. You will soon see a
danger in the new bible versions you never noticed before!
We
should, as soon as possible, enact every energy toward memorizing scripture,
especially those that explain our position to the world in doctrine and last day
events, and the promises!!
Is
it a sin to recite scripture from memory poorly and not exactly as it is
written? Even if you miss a word when reciting, at least the thought is
still in tact though the words are slightly off, therefore there's no problem!
Isn't that true? If it's not a sin, what about making different bible
versions with different words? The thought is still the same, isn't it?
Let's find out!
Ever noticed
America and the world are now arguing over issues we never had to face before?
And yet we're arguing over issues that would have been child's play just 50 years
ago. That includes women's ordination, homosexuality, the necessity of
torture, whether all the churches should unite, etc.
But one has
emerged which many are not taking very seriously. The workers of treason
are taking this issue very seriously, although they may at times pretend not to.
But their victims at large do not take it very seriously. That issue is
whether or not the King James Version bible should be the only version we use
FOR THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.
Many just
can't understand why the King James Version only people would make such a big
deal and tell us we must only use the King James Version bible. There's
not a single person in treason we have yet contended with that sided with these
seemingly weird folks. On the Adventist forums staffed with the so-called
former Adventists, those KJV only people are condemned, and many are there telling us
that many Adventists from the "weird, legalistic" historical branch, hold on to
the King James Version only,
because
they desire to perpetuate their errors that Adventism had always had.
As we
have mentioned before, these are the same people who claimed they were kicked
out of the Adventist Church because it was intolerant and wouldn't allow others
to disagree.
But as those
who oppose the KJV only people at times even ask what's the big deal anyway, we
see that it's a great deal for them to suppress the King James Version, or even
swamp it into minority status and oblivion. We have seen churches where
KJV bibles exclusively were on the benches. Soon a pastor would come
demanding transformation. Then arguments would come that other versions
should be there. Soon brand new bibles of other versions were side by side
the older King James Version bibles. A short time later, the older King
James Version bibles would slowly disappear one by one until those churches
became dominated by every version but the KJV.
Now, all
the pastors regularly quote from every other version, and did what they can to
leave the King James version out.
Now we even
go into the
Sabbath School lessons online, we have a problem: most everything
quoted is from different versions. We even saw the option where lessons
were given in the KJV, but when we got there, some references were given in the
other versions still! Obviously the idea of KJV only supporters being
"desperate" is only half of the tale.
We are here
to try to answer for you just what they're trying to accomplish, but please
remember, in all of this, there are honest pastors, members and even students
who do these things without realizing the danger or what is happening.
Watching people quote or use different versions does not mean they're involved
in any kind of treason. They are just flowing or drifting along endlessly
in a current they don't understand. We documenting about the
diversity issue, where our enemies are struggling to put us into confusion,
helps to make this idea that many different versions having slightly different
words should be looked at with suspicion.
NEW! Youtube
series from Walter Veith. He gives Revelation Seminars. Here he
shows quite precisely the differences between the other version bibles and the
King James Version:
Addendum: Matt. 20:16
"many be called, but few chosen" This shows that even what is
considered the lowest of human beings are called to God's service
and not that God favors a secretive elite.
Addenum: Luke
2:14 KJV: "Glory to God
in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men."
RSV: "Glory to
God in the highest, and on earth peace among men with whom he is
pleased."
This releases a
select elite from showing good will to men or to the common folk
especially those who do not obey nor regard that select elite.
The KJV rendition threatens their doctrines of PERSECUTION upon all who are not
like them.
Luke 9:55, 56
KJV compared to RSV and NIV: But he turned, and rebuked them,
and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For
the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
And they went to another village.
This passage
from the KJV also condemns the doctrines of domination and persecution against
all others the heathen who usurp positions into Christianity are
going to later curse the world with.
Addendum: Matt.
5:39 RSV "You search the scriptures, because you think that in them
you have eternal life" instead of just "Search the scriptures" from
the King James Version.
It takes a
command to objectively search a definite work with sure universal
direction and then changes to say you should search the scriptures
merely to substantiate your own opinion. This is what Rome
said would happen if they allowed the common man to study and
interpret the bible. They would follow their own
interpretations, then chaos and calamity would ultimately come and
the scepter and the crown would be destroyed: society would be
destroyed.
Addendum: Talking
about food, Mark 7:19 RSV says: "since it enters, not into his heart but his stomach,
and so passes on? (Thus he declared all foods clean)."
In the NIV the
same message is given saying that in Mark 7:19 Christ made all foods
formerly regarded as unclean, clean. This is all an insult to
the intelligence of God. For food since the beginning of time always entered into the
belly and not the heart. For what reason then did the Lord
classify some foods as unclean since the beginning? (Genesis 7:8)
Addendum: Saying that
it is pronounced once for men to die... Hebrews 9:27 KJV "...but after this THE Judgment."
RSV: "...and
after that comes judgment."
NIV: "...and
after that to face judgment."
The KJV words
"the Judgment" shows a definite event. In the realm of the
world there are many judgments and courts. Judged by whom?
Judged by history? Judged by Russia? Judged by
economists?
The KJV
expression "the Judgment" gives no doubt to only one event and one
court.
Is the King James
Version bible free from errors? NO! But we don't have to worry about
that. God has promised that He will Preserve His word. That is
fulfilled in the King James Version Bible FOR THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.
It is because the
translators TREMBLED at the dreadful task of translating, knowing the awesome
consequences of error since God's people must memorize and internalize the
words. The translators of the other bible versions, having no such
trembling within them, but believing that the church is above the bible and can
interpret and even modify the words according to how they see fit, made the
difference.
Because of this
trembling the true translators of God's Word would have, because they dreaded
the work, they had no intention whatsoever of translating any more times other
than is necessary. Therefore, having such translators guarantees basically
only a singular work.
They
[the supporters for the many
different bible versions] want many different bibles
and say if we don't want this, we're "divisive." But then they insist we
must have only "one government" and one church. God's true people are
exactly the opposite.
God's people want many different
governments so that they can check each other. If only one existed, who
would correct it if it is wrong or makes tragic mistakes? The whole world
came out of "one government" during the Christian age, and did so because under
that government there was no freedom of speech nor religion nor most anything
else.
We insist on one bible because
God's Words are not fallible like are men. Although men were instruments
who wrote those words, and they themselves surely were not perfect, the promise
the Lord made that He would preserve His words has clearly been kept.
The Baskin-Robins, many different
flavors supporters want one government because they believe that man, or their
Antichrist, is perfect and infallible. The many different bibles they want
is to show that God is imperfect. They already told us that the bible is
useless in our hands and that we need to go to them for them to interpret what
it means. The many different versions increase the conflict and confusion.
We have already demonstrated a warning given by God that states in fact that anyone who tampers
with the words of God or adds words or subtracts words from them, IS LOST!
This represents the miracle that took place during the Millerite Movement
(forerunner movement to the Seventh-day Adventist Church) of the 1830s and
1840s.
Here is an
excellent resource to show the tragedy of what has been done in the other
versions of the bible besides the KJV. In the documentation on the link
below...
"REM" = They
removed certain words, phrases or even the entire verse
The first link
just above here shows comprehensive tables of what has been done in the other versions that
disputes the idea that it was done haphazardly or by mistake. It is in
common with most of the documentation dealing with what was done against the
bible as we have known it. Just like there was an attack upon the Bible by
Evolution, so those who support it have infiltrated into religion to attack the
Bible in a more internal and direct way.
But here we
are trying to show an angle of this controversy that is hardly mentioned: the
actual power and AUTHORITY of the Word of God to keep you holy!
Psalm 119:11
Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
Revelation
3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the
hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell
upon the earth.
Persecution like the world has never known is about to fall. We are trying
to show that it is IMPOSSIBLE, especially for responsible Adventists in the
faith for years, to go through that time successfully without memorizing
scripture. Memorizing scripture is a major part of the power necessary to
overcome sin and temptation. MEMORIZING SCRIPTURE WILL ALSO BE VERY
CRUCIAL IN DEFENDING THE FAITH IN THE AUDIENCE OF THE PEOPLE AND WILL BE
INSTRUMENTAL IN DETERMINING HOW MANY WOULD SUPPORT OR REJECT US IN THE FUTURE!
The numbers we either acquire to our side by our strong support of the truth, or
who turn away from us more firmly by our poor performance defending our faith in
the audiences of the people will have cataclysmic effects upon our own resolve
to remain true. While many are saying Adventism was raised to present
Christ to the world in an attempt to say it must present only Christ to the
neglect of His special instructions especially for the end times involving doctrine and
guidance, their enemies will remove their bibles from them leaving them
to present their arguments before the world alone and as unaided as possible.
It is at that time they will realize they were not brought into the world to
merely "present Christ" to a Christian world determined to enact global Sunday
laws and transform the world "for Christ." The treason even in the
Adventist Church, is not bound to inform you about this. So they
themselves will keep verbally telling you that the mission for the Adventist
Church, is to "present Christ" to the world. Actually that is true, but it
was specially raised to highlight and herald neglected and hated instruction to
the world the rest of the Christian world has rejected.
Mark 4:4 But
he answered and said,
It is
written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY word that proceedeth
out of the mouth of God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXVrX1j9irs
Pastor Steven L. Anderson (an up and
coming young Baptist minister)
has insights to understand the issues over whether or not the King
James Bible should be used as the only English ones, or whether we
can accept the 500 different versions (and, according to the treason
in a stealthy manner, accept all others BUT the King James Version!
Those in treason who push all the other versions, actually want
every other but the King James Version. Honest ones who are
not in treason think they are all of equal validity.)
Pastor Steven Anderson shows his amazing
ability to memorize scripture and shows how anyone can memorize whole
books of the bible with just using a little dedication. Listen
closely to this video! To those who understand what it says,
it will have a heavy affect on their destinies!
Check out this webpage on the site of his
church that shows different methods of memorizing scripture:
This means
that if a man has two lovers, and he sends love letters to both of them, and one
decides to give heed to all his letters, while the other approaches the first
and tells her, "I can't read those other letters! It would distract me
from loving my man! I love him more than you!" The Groom will ignore
that second lover. There is no "pure, pure Gospel" that demands we forsake
scripture that details history, guidance and prophecy in order to praise or
concentrate on "Christ only," that will make us more accepted by the Groom.
He will reject us on that account.
Therefore,
those in treason, knowing this, how we need to present the special present truth
doctrines of our faith, struggle to put many different versions of the bible
containing different words, added words, omitted words and paraphrases.
Knowing they will take our bibles from us, they use the most effective engines
for stifling scripture memorization most undetectable. When we even quote
scripture even to defend Adventism, those few who memorize from other versions
would quote different words. We believe it will soon be seen the power of
these different version bibles. When in prison, while even reciting
scripture that gives power and comfort, one major means of torture that will
affect Adventists like never before, is for our captors to repeat the same
scriptures we are quoting from different versions loudly through audio devices
while we are captive. Many Adventists will struggle to block their ears
and recite the true wording in their minds to make sure it is not corrupted.
They will
understand THAT THEY WILL LOSE THEIR POWER AND AUTHORITY WITH EACH WORD
THEY CANNOT RIGHTLY RECITE AND PLACE!
Just a little
while ago Christians used to demand that we memorize scripture
and that we
quote it perfectly!
What they were saying is that the words recited or memorized must be EXACTLY as
what was written in the bibles they had. Then historically, the Essenes,
instrumental in preserving its words to us, were sticklers to make sure the
words they were reproducing were AS EXACTLY AS POSSIBLE reproduced. They
even, after writing, would literally count the words to make sure what they were
doing was as exact as the original as possible. Every word was crucial to
be reproduced as it was. In life, there are mistakes that can be made that
can reproduce a harvest of damnation throughout ages! One mistake even in
the wording could convey a wrong impression upon generations of people who would
be reading the work. All true translators regarded the work of reproducing
or translating scripture as not only needed, BUT DREADED! They knew that
generations would be not only reading, but memorizing what they produced, and
that, if they made mistakes, the errors would perpetuate and make them suffer a
horrible punishment at the end. Just like with food that enters the body,
spiritual food must be of the finest quality, or else the responsibility would
compound upon those entrusted with the work of reproducing.
They would
actually have preferred not to do the work at all!
It was a dreaded responsibility. The only reason why they did it was
because they realized that if they didn't, the Word of God would not be present
IN
THEIR LANGUAGE for many to enjoy AT ALL!
[The following poster on the
newsgroups was attacking the Sabbath against the arguments of someone
else. His words are typical of even the "former Adventists" now
constantly attacking the Adventist Church on the internet. Watch:]
First, no modern Bible student would
seriously consider the "arguments" of someone who uses as "proof texts"
passages from the KJV. There are other versions that are equally as
reliable that are
MUCH easier to understand and -- therefore-- to work with.
[He just said that they are
equal, and then said that all other versions could be taken seriously
BUT the King James Version cannot. This shows ultimately where the
"tolerant" ones are taking us as already shown. They claimed we
must be broadminded and use other options even with the bibles on the
benches in church. In many cases a short time later all the King
James Version bibles disappear even through being worn out, but are
never replaced, and that is reflected in most of the sermons given on
the pulpit, from the references they quote from. Many times it
works out that they are telling us we can use every version BUT the King
James Version.]
Soon,
different people infiltrated into the very fiber of Christianity arrived who
naturally have no such scruples. This website has been documenting for a
long time who these people are.
Why then is
there such a difference between the Essenes and the KJV only crowd with people standing up telling us they're making
different versions and paraphrases with different words omitting here and adding
there? Is there a difference between the two examples? People now
telling us it conveys the same idea, but with different words? The Word of
God that made the universe can now express the same idea, but with different
words?
Let's compare
what we've evolved into now with the way things were done in history in the
Adventist Church. We cannot get the denomination off of this obsession
with not only accepting the new versions, but pushing them upon the Adventist
people. Again, this disease has not been, as far as we have seen, caught by
the independent ministries:
Both in the
classwork and in the general review exercises the work was so arranged that the
children had a part in doing as well as listening, and in this way they soon
felt at home, and their eagerness to bear some part in the work testified to
their interest.
"Each lesson opened with a general exercise, which was followed by the class
studies; and at the close all assembled for a brief review and song. In the
opening exercises, after the song and prayer, the motto and all the memory
verses previously learned were recited, either in concert or individually, or
both. A short, appropriate reading or recitation was given by one of the
children who had previously volunteered to prepare it. The "Scripture alphabet'
was learned and recited by the children, each choosing his own letter and verse.
The selection and learning of the verses were done at home, and these
responsibilities placed upon the children proved an additional incentive for
them to be present the following day and to be regular in attendance.
"The ready
responses in the review exercises testified that the interest in classwork had
been marked, and that many valuable truths had found their way into the minds
and hearts of the children. As the children returned to their homes, the parents
were surprised and pleased to hear them repeat the whole lesson. Many parents
expressed, in various ways, their appreciation of the work that had been done
for the children and regretted that the meetings must close so soon.
"Several teachers from Sunday schools attended the meetings and expressed
themselves as greatly pleased and benefited by the work done. Parents sometimes
came with their children and seemed as much interested as the little ones.
Others, though not in harmony with our views, took the trouble to dress their
children neatly and allowed them to come. Some parents remarked that they did
not know what we did with their children, but one thing was certain, the
children would come, and they could not keep them at home. Some of the children
came long distances, and we have every reason to believe that much of the seed
sown fell into good ground." -- 6T 106-107.
Here we are
seeing that reciting scripture was crucial! How can we adopt that now when
people all around scoff and tell us the words are not important, only the actual
ideas need to stand? Which bibles would we read from to make sure the
reciting quotations are exact?
Let those who
work for the higher classes bear themselves with true dignity, remembering that
angels are their companions. Let them keep the treasure house of mind and heart
well filled with "It is written." Hang in memory's hall the precious words of
Christ. They are to be valued far above silver or gold.
-- Testimonies
for the Church, Vol. 6, p. 81.
There
is more encouragement to us in the least blessing which we receive ourselves
than in reading biographical works relating to the faith and experience of noted
men of God. The things we ourselves have experienced of the blessings of God
through His gracious promises we may hang in memory's halls, and whether rich or
poor, learned or illiterate, we may look and may consider these tokens of God's
love. Every token of God's care and goodness and mercy should be hung as
imperishable mementos in memory's halls. God would
have His love, His promises, written upon the tablets of the mind.
Guard the precious revealings of God
that not a
letter shall become obliterated or dimmed.
-- Our High Calling, p. 135.
Here is a
main quote to let you to understand how we were and how we still are to be:
No Excuse for
Ignorance
Some who enter the ministry do not feel the burden of the work. They have false
ideas of the qualifications of a minister. They think that it requires little
close study of the sciences or of the word of God in order to gain a fitness for
the ministry. Some who are teaching present truth are so deficient in Bible
knowledge that
it is
difficult for them to quote a text of Scripture correctly from memory.
By blundering along in the awkward manner that they do,
they sin against God.
They wrest the Scriptures, and make the Bible say things that are not written
therein.
-- Gospel Workers,
p. 105.
Here are more
quotations for us to understand why, even now still being practiced in poorer
countries around the world, memorization of the exact words of scripture were
always crucial:
Let us look to the monumental pillars,
reminders of what the Lord has done to comfort us and to save us from the hand
of the destroyer. Let us keep fresh in our memory all the tender mercies that
God has shown us--the tears He has wiped away, the pains He has soothed, the
anxieties removed, the fears dispelled, the wants supplied, the blessings
bestowed--thus strengthening ourselves for all that is before us through the
remainder of our pilgrimage. -- Our High Calling,
p. 135.
Brethren and sisters, it is by beholding that we become changed. By dwelling
upon the love of God and our Saviour, by contemplating the perfection of the
divine character and claiming the righteousness of Christ as ours by faith, we
are to be transformed into the same image. Then let us not gather together all
the unpleasant pictures--the iniquities and corruptions and disappointments, the
evidences of Satan's power--to hang in the halls of our memory, to talk over and
mourn over until our souls are filled with discouragement. A discouraged soul is
a body of darkness, not only failing himself to receive the light of God, but
shutting it away from others. Satan loves to see the effect of the pictures of
his triumphs, making human beings faithless and disheartened.
-- Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 5, p. 744-745.
Our lives are hid with Christ in God,
and when He who is our Life shall appear, we shall appear with Him in glory.
You do not need to be discouraged. Christ came to save His people from their
sins. The devil will come to you and tell you that you are a sinner and
cannot be saved. But Christ says He came to save sinners, and there you can
meet the devil every time. Christ can pardon your sins. He says, "Come now, and let us reason together . . . : though your sins be as
scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they
shall be as wool."
Oh, I want you to take the rich promises of God and hang memory's halls with
them. What more could you want than that promise? We have the assurance that a
mother can forget her nursing child but He will not forget us. Oh, I want the
promises of God to be the living pictures on memory's walls, that you can look
at them. Then your heart can be filled with His grace and you may exalt Jesus
and crown Him Lord of all. That is your privilege.
-- 1888 80.
He
thought if he could have the presence of God's glory it would help him to carry
on this great work. He says, "Shew me thy glory." Now that was a man of faith,
and God did not rebuke him. God did not call it presumption, but He took that
man of faith and put him into the cleft of the rock and put His hand over the
rock and showed him all the glory that he could endure. He made His goodness to
pass before him, and showed him His goodness, His mercy, and His love. If we
want God's glory to pass before us, if we want to have memory's halls hung with
the promises of love and mercy, we want to talk of His glory and tell of His
power. And if we have dark and miserable days we can commit these promises to
memory and take our minds off discouragement. It would please the devil to think
he has bothered us; but we want to talk of Jesus and His love and His power,
because we have nothing better to talk of.
-- 1888 p. 83.
We
must not give up at the defilement that is in the human race and ever keep that
before the mind's eye. We must not look at that. What then are we to do? What is
our work?--To behold "what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us." Do
not let the blighting influences that are flooding the world be the picture that
is before the mind, but hold up the purity and love of God. Do not hang in
memory's hall pictures of all the corruption and iniquity that you can bundle
together. No, do not do it. It discourages the mind. A discouraged man is good
for nothing. Just get the mind off these dark pictures by talking of God's love,
and you may hang memory's halls with the brightest pictures that you can
imagine. -- 1888, p. 75-76.
In
thought, word, and deed show that you are abiding in Christ. Let your speech
reveal this. Speech is a precious talent. Our words are to be words that God and
the holy angels can hear with approval. Our minds are to be storehouses filled
with the treasures of the Bible. Let the walls of memory's hall be hung with the
treasures of God's word, with his precious promises. Store up these promises,
that in time of need you may be able to give them to the weary and heavy laden.
You are God's missionary just as soon as you take your stand under his banner.
You are to be a laborer together with him.
-- Paulsen Collection, p. 315.
Communion
With God Necessary.--Several times each day precious, golden moments should be
consecrated to prayer and the study of the Scriptures, if it is only to commit a
text to memory, that spiritual life may exist in the soul. The varied interests
of the cause furnish us with food for reflection and inspiration for our
prayers. Communion with God is highly essential for spiritual health, and here
only may be obtained that wisdom and correct judgment so
necessary in the performance of every duty.
--Testimonies for the Church,
Vol. 4, p. 459 (1880). Daughters of God, p. 82-83.
We
must be better acquainted with our Bibles. We might close the door to many
temptations, if we would commit to memory passages of Scripture. Let us hedge up
the way to Satan's temptations with "It is written." We shall meet with
conflicts to test our faith and courage, but they will make us strong if we
conquer through the grace Jesus is willing to give. But we must believe; we must
grasp the promises without a doubt. -- The Faith I Live By, p. 8.
The
mind must be restrained, and not allowed to wander. It should be trained to
dwell upon the Scriptures; even whole chapters may be committed to memory, to be
repeated when Satan comes in with his temptations. The fifty-eighth of Isaiah is
a profitable chapter for this purpose. Wall the soul in with the restrictions
and instructions given by the inspiration of the Spirit of God. When Satan would
lead the mind to dwell upon earthly and sensual things, he is most effectually
resisted with "It is written." When he suggests doubts as to whether we are
really the people whom God is leading, whom by tests and provings he is
preparing to stand in the great day, be ready to meet his insinuations by
presenting the clear evidence from the word of God that we are keeping the
commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
-- Gospel Workers, 92, p. 418.
