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JESUIT DIALOGUES WITH STEPHEN KORSMAN!!
(Dialogue with Stephen Korsman continued). .
.
Updated 10/15/00: The word "Waldenses"
was replaced with "Waldenses"
Is it true there is Jesuit infiltration all over American society and all over the world, and that this is what is causing all the revolution, fears of global economic collapse, erasure of borders and sovereignty and America using the Patriot Act supporting secret courts, secret trials, detention camps, etc? Or are we just believing conspiracy theories and are conspiracy theorists who very much concern the federal government of the United States and some elsewhere?
Here are some links showing Stephen Korsman deliberately spamming Brother Ted. We went on the internet and saw his Catholic Defenders of the Faith website attacking the Adventist Church. We therefore thought this a good place to defend ourselves and all of Protestantism from the charge of hatred by people who are deceivers, persecutors and torturers, whose very history has defined the word HATRED. In all our dealings with the Jesuits, they have purported to us that spamming is a major crime JUST AS SEEN IN OUR GOVERNMENT TODAY! In the US government there is a terrible PARANOIA about spam. Why is this? BECAUSE THE INTERNET IS STILL THE ONLY FREE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION AND MEDIA IN THE NATION TODAY. They have tried to regulate it a great deal, but were not successful. They are being more successful now in their paranoia about spam. We can more and more see that people are even commissioned to spam ultimately for the purpose of the government controlling emails. The more they spam is the more the government stands up to produce legislation against it. Although we also are against spam, we are telling you that the purpose for the great concern against it and its ensuing rise is to actually close down freedom on the internet and not allow anyone to pass crucial information to others that can even save lives!
Our "Adventist" Jesuits telling us we must debate while then demanding we have to give up our beliefs, laughed at us because of our concerns about the terrors of the last days, telling us that Christ can handle any such situation. But, ALAS, the Jesuits strike again when we ask them why unwanted email terrorizes their souls!
Stephen Korsman, a prominent unscrupulous Jesuit who happens to have hosted for a long time, the Catholic Defenders of the Faith website, now moves out to prove a certain question we have asked all along: Is it true what was found in historic Protestant documentation telling us the Jesuits are the deadliest and most unscrupulous people alive? I hope you were able to see by now the death mandates against all non-Catholics posted by Ted Seeber and Teresita! Some time before that there was dialogue with Stephen Korsman, who immediately went on the attack to tell us the Protestant documentation were lies. Let's find out form this example alone again, whether or not the armies of the Pope are unscrupulous, having no conscience! Let's find out if they truly are infiltrated all throughout our society.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/msg/2f017256221a066b
Entire thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.bible/browse_thread/thread/35876752a15a62dc/2f017256221a066b?lnk=st&q=%22Rome+supports+the+10+commandments%22#2f017256221a066b
In this link above Stephen Korsman is attacking the Seventh-day Adventist
Church by claiming it supports the 10 Commandments. This is just one
example. He claims the 10 Commandments are "done away with," are
relics of legalism and endanger salvation by faith in Christ. When did
you see a Roman Catholic Catechism do this?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian.lutheran/msg/bb07b4cfce5c3412
In this link, Stephen Korsman posted support for the War in Iraq even
though he heard the Pope, John Paul II, condemn it.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian.adventist/browse_frm/thread/a3a137ad2e0d029e/4e5ed901a63bf049#4e5ed901a63bf049
Entire thread showing Jesuits attacking the 10 Commandments: doing it merely
to attack the foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
From: Ted McMillan (tmac1238@my-deja.com)
Subject: ###Mr. Korsman Continues His "Love" Emails!
Date: 2000/07/17
In this link is shown Stephen Korsman deliberately sending spam to me. I am complaining about it. In it he claims he has every right to do so because, believe it or not, he was insulted. I myself was insulted often by him, but knew I didn't have to email him. We got into discussion about his attack websites against Adventism. He claimed it was justified. We then started to show the crimes of his religion. His usual reply was that Rome was maligned by bigots (whom they slaughtered, by the way) and that when people find out the truth, she would smell like a rose. He claimed all that was said about her being tyrannical, forbidding people to differ and exterminating them were lies. He had the habit, after being cornered to reply "DIALOGUE TERMINATED!" then he would fill the space we asked for answers with constant verbage telling us how evil we are, JUST LIKE HIS ANCESTORS. The difference was that his ancestors had the power to kill, while he doesn't yet.
From: Ted McMillan (tmac1238@my-deja.com)
Subject: ###Mr. Korsman Continues His "Love" Emails! II
Date: 2000/07/17
Dear Friends,
This is Mr. Korsman's second illegal email to me:
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:28:07 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:33:08 +0200
From: Stephen Korsman <skorsman@global.co.za> Add to Address Book Add To
Spam Block List Subject: Re: ###Mr. Korsman's Lack Thereof! To: tmac1238@my-Deja.com
Reply To: Stephen Korsman <skorsman@global.co.za>
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Teddy
Let's make an agreement.
I have a right to defend myself against immoral attacks such a those you are making against me. I have a right to defend myself privately. Therefore no legal organisation in the world will consider private e-mail to you from me as "spam." Your actions are totally unethical, attacking me by lying about me on the newsgroup. Therefore I am well within my rights by dealing with this privately first. Please expect private e-mail from me EVERY time you send private e-mail to me, and EVERY time you make a dishonest statement about me on the newsgroup.
[I replied to him telling him to stop sending me email and to argue his issues in public. He now claims that he can send me private email because I sent him some asking him to stop.]
That is NOT unjustified private e-mail. It is perfectly justified. Your behaviour is what is unjustified. So just get that straight. You treat me with respect and I will do the same for you. But at this point in time you do not deserve any such respect, you deserve to be treated like a child, because of the way you are behaving.
Godbless, Stephen
[He could defend himself in public and let everyone see! Ever heard of SECRET TRIALS, SECRET COURTS, THE PATRIOT ACT? Ever read how the Inquisitions were run? Ever compared that to the Communists and the Nazis and how they ran governments? Ever compared how how these organizations ran their government compared with the principles contained in the Patriot Act?
Actually, when we questioned Stephen about his
attack website against Adventism, he immediately began calling us bigots,
etc. Remember: THIS IS ROME! Do NOT be surprised! The ones responsible
for the worst tortures, massacres and injustices are all over the internet
accusing their enemies of HATRED!]
In this link is another complaint by me because of Stephen Korsman's spam:
From: Ted McMillan (tmac1238@my-deja.com)
Subject: ###Mr. Korsman Continues His "Love" Emails! III
Date: 2000/07/17
Dear Friends,
As you can see by now, I am just so insignificant to Mr. Korsman and Joan, that he cannot just even lie about me or take what I dish out as he dishes out, and leave it at that. We have seen him defend his spam. Here now is his third message [We are trying to show you that the Jesuits never really cared about spam. The concern is just used to spark legislation against the free use of the internet!]:
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:41:06 +0200 From: Stephen Korsman <skorsman@global.co.za> Add to Address Book Add To Spam Block List Subject: Re: ###Mr. Kormsan Privately Emails Again! To: tmac1238@my-deja.com
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Ted McMillan <tmac1238@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8kr36d$2j4$1@nnrp1.deja.c.
> Mr. Korsman has sent me another private email after I again warned him
> to stop. This is the continuing disease of all these "honest" people
> sent on the forums to ridicule anyone sounding the warning, and to
> deceive the people so that they cannot see what is coming.
>
> You had thought that these people were all up in arms against spam,
> didn't you? They only pretend to be that way because the internet
> still provides free and unrestricted access and dispersal of
> information unlike the national and other media secretly controlled and
> censored by them. But yet, see demonstrated, as with everything else,
> their total immunity to all--even their own--principles!
>
> Maybe any of you can talk to the man and convince him to
> become "dishonest." That way, things will be a great deal better.
Teddy, my boy, I will treat YOU with respect when you treat ME with respect. At the moment your behaviour disgusts me to the extreme. If you post LIES about me on this newsgroup, I think I am well within my rights to e-mail you privately and ask you to stop. If you disagree, then YOU are the one who has no respect for the rights of other, NOT ME.
I will not NEED to criticise you privately if you do not lie about me publically.
God bless,
Stephen
[He did not email me in private to ask me to stop. That's not what was contained in his emails. I don't think any of you readers, being the victims of these Jesuits, write things on the internet that others don't like, and have them emailing you after you ask them to stop.]
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=8m2dgi%24oqd%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
From: Ted McMillan
(tmac1238@my-deja.com) Subject: Re: Catholic Doctrines Questioned (for
Stephen)
Date: 2000/07/30
In article
<8m25cj$l0j$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, "Stephen Korsman" <skorsman@global.co.za>
wrote:
> Your point ?
> > I think that Catholics who question their beliefs and search with an
open
> mind will find that Catholicism is faithful to God and the Bible. It is
> when they are "guided" by blind teachers such as the Adventist church, and
> read the misinformation put out by antiCatholic sects and so-called
> "ministries", that they get led astray. They trust people like Jesse, who
> publishes inaccurate and misleading quotations that get them confused.
> > God bless,
> Stephen
>
AntiCatholic sects like Martin Luther, Zwingli, Calvin and the rest of them? Those Protestants writings tell us that during those days, Rome was nothing but deception and power-hungry despot ranting. Where therefore is Mr. Korsman's proof for what he has spoken?
We are in the court now. Should we run this court just like how Foxe's Book of Martyrs tells us that Korsman's Rome ran the Dark Ages? Or should evidence be provided here in this arena?
As you can see, Korsman does not care what he does. He will not provide the evidence to back up his statements. The questions were asked whether or not Martin Luther hated Catholics. To this day we have not received an answer. His very following proved that this is not true. Trying to convert Catholics is no proof they are hated, but rather the opposite, if anything. The same is true for the Adventist Church. The best of them in membership were once Catholics. I at times saw them handing out literature even about the 666 Beast being the Papacy, and I saw Catholic priests even taking it to read. They were not angry.
Still, we are in a discussion arena right now, and Mr. Korsman has made statements that he feels he has no obligation to prove. In order to cover this up, he has and will spend his time ranting about how others are despicable bigots and despots.
THIS IS ROME, ALL OVER AGAIN!! You saw my evidence to prove that Martin Luther was not AntiCatholic. What is Korsman's proof that he is, and how is the anology of hate to fit in with the deeds of those Protestants in contrast with the deed of Rome JUSTIFIED BY HER VERY UNCHANGING WRITINGS?
Let us see the dialogue terminated again and again when people do what was done in history which even got them killed. [Stephen Korsman kept posting "dialogue terminated" when and only when we provided questions that would destroy his office.
Ted
[Shortly thereafter came the first time the following tactic was used. These Jesuits were able to make false posts under my own name. This caused problems as posts labeled as coming from me, insulted other posters that were there, but it is nothing for the Jesuits to do these things. The following posts are under my name, but I did not post them:]
From: Teddy McMillan (tmacl238@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: #THE REINCARNATES FROM THE DARK AGES SAY:
[Note: Look very closely at the email address! It says tmacl238@yahoo.com. My email address is tmac1238@yahoo.com. See the numbers? The number one in my email address was substituted to a small letter "L" in the email address Stephen Korsman used.]
View: Complete Thread (16 articles)
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.adventist, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,
tnn.religion.catholic
Date: 2002-02-25 07:35:53 PST
After re-reading this, yes Ellen is
the Antichrist, and I'm very much
anti-christian.
Ted McMillan
tmac1238@seventh-dayadventism.com
THE LAST WORD ON ADVENTIST TRUTH!
http://www.seventh-dayadventism.com
[Here is another post labeled as coming from me. This time it has the correct email. We wondered how this was done. We found out that it was done using a newsreader program.]
From: Ted McMillan (tmac1238@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Rolaant McKenzie, SDA Hater
Date: 2000-08-17 17:52:53 PST
The real reason is because I"m
scrupulous...And I have proven it in this
newsgroup.
Ted
From: Ted McMillan (tmac1238@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Rolaant McKenzie, SDA Hater
Date: 2000-08-15 05:39:54 PST
K-girl, it's ok, I bad mouth
Christians all the time, that is why I quit being
an Adventist, they make me sick with the false claims we make, about
salvation
based on the IJ. And remember after 1844??? The door was shut, and never to
re-open according to our beloved Pope, Ellen G. White. Still I want to watch
the ten commandments with you and eat oysters.
My reply:
From: Ted McMillan (tmac1238@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Rolaant McKenzie, SDA Hater
View: Complete Thread (72 articles)
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.adventist
Date: 2000-08-15 18:10:35 PST
I did not post this K-girl, and I don't bad-mouth Christians.
I HAVE NEVER BAD-MOUTHED A SINGLE
CHRISTIAN SINCE I HAVE BEEN POSTING
ON THE NEWSGROUPS.
Ted
[The reply from the Jesuits claiming to be maligned for history:]
From: Ted McMillan (tmac1238@my-deja.com)
Subject: Re: Rolaant McKenzie, SDA Hater
Date: 2000-08-16 05:17:27 PST
I did post this K -girl, and I do
bad-mouth Christians.
I HAVE BAD-MOUTHED ALOT OF CHRISTIANS SINCE I HAVE BEEN POSTING
ON THE NEWS GROUPS.
And I love it. I love to bad mouth alot of sincere Christians, because I'm
scrupulous.
Ted
Here are more impersonating posts. WE ARE TRYING TO SHOW YOU NOT WHY INACCURATE INFORMATION IS ALL OVER THE GLOBE, BUT WHY LIES--INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING STATEMENTS AND IDEAS--ARE EVERYWHERE!
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 22:14, 15
Blessed are they that do his
commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in
through the gates into the city.
15
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and
idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
These scriptures are not telling you that in the last days just inaccurate information will be everywhere, but that LIES will be everywhere! Over the internet, the only people deliberately posting things they very well know are not true, are the Jesuits.
Here is Stephen Korsman in action showing his
uncanny and trained talent to lie. He sends more posts impersonating
me. You must understand from these examples and all history that this
person also makes a man like Ted Bundy compares to Pee Wee Herman!
Their documented talent to lie always precedes and follows their documented talents to kill!
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Subject: Re: SDA Doctrines Questioned (for Ted)
Date: 2000/08/04 |
Stephen, I apologize to you..I will not be like I was before. Forgive me for being such an idiot. A BOOF also. Your right, and I'm wrong. Today, I am a foolish person, tomorrow is a new day. I hope we both can sit together and study. Stephen Korsman wrote: > Ted McMillan <tmac1238@my-deja.com> wrote in message > news:8m2dvg$p56$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > Let me ask you a candid question: > > > > Where is King David now? > > King David is in heaven. The Bible tells us that during Jesus time, he had > not YET ascended into heaven. Acts 2:34. The original Greek does not > support the Adventist misinterpretation that David is not there NOW. > > God bless, > Stephen > > -- > -- > Stephen Korsman > skorsman@global.co.za > Sites against Adventism: > http://members.tripod.com/SDAdventist/index.htm > http://members.xoom.com/SDAdventist/index.htm > http://www.angelfire.com/nt/sda2rcc/index.html > http://www.homestead.com/adventist/files/index.htm > Church of God site: > http://home.global.co.za/~skorsman/cog/index.htm > Main site / Catholic sites > http://home.global.co.za/~skorsman/index.htm
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Subject: Re: SDA Doctrines Questioned (for Ted)
Date: 2000/08/04 |
Jesse you are right, forgive me, for my unscrupulous rantings like people I accused of, now I'm unscrupulous. My Adventist religion is destroying my brain. I can't think straight anymore. I'm a nitwit. Some of my best friends say I'm an east end of a horse going west. Thank you for bringing this up. I will try to do better next time, now that I'm born again. Not only that, but I like to pick and choose passages of Scripture that I like and ignore the rest. Do you know that I used to believe that the Sabbath was the greatest commandment? I'm unscrupulous lately. God help me. Adventism is eating my brain. Ted -- I want to apologize to all those I have called "Pope" and said unloving things to. There are too many to list here. I was very unscrupulous type person. And I promise I wll never do such a thing. I thank God that I am now born again, and that I do not have any defense for a false religion such as I have been defending. From now I invite you to my website, it's different than before. Just forgive me for my stupid mistakes, and let God's love flow on you as it has for me...Thank you Jesus for saving me and letting me be born again yesterday. I will serve Him in truth and in Spirit, without this emotional out break I have been having lately. I really apologize to this newsgroup..and to the rest of this community...again I'm sorry. Please visit my web site, things are changed. Ted -- The Truth of Adventism http://www2.50megs.com/tmac1238/sealedinfo.html The light around the deception of the Adventists! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > You havent debated anything yet. You have made a lot of noise but no > discussion. Jesse > > Stephen Korsman <skorsman@global.co.za> wrote in message > news:8mcbfc$39f$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...As I said, Jesse, I > don't debate with people who cannot hold an honest > conversation. God bless,Stephen > -- > -- > Stephen Korsman > skorsman@global.co.za > Sites against Adventism: > http://members.tripod.com/SDAdventist/index.htm > http://members.xoom.com/SDAdventist/index.htm > http://www.angelfire.com/nt/sda2rcc/index.html > http://www.homestead.com/adventist/files/index.htm > Church of God site: > http://home.global.co.za/~skorsman/cog/index.htm > Main site / Catholic sites > http://home.global.co.za/~skorsman/index.htm > --
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