This page is in response to the blasphemous propaganda of Valano72 in her recent video post on December 29, 2008 where she was concerned that Christians might oppose the oppressive FEMA concentration camps in the United States that have been built.  You are to compare this with the other examples where Jesuits approached us to stop us from exposing or opposing people who made death threats against all non-Catholics:

First Example

Second Example

The issue here is about government oppression with the FEMA concentration camps.

This poster is actually telling us that it is a Christian duty to welcome these camps!

Remember that with everything terrible happening today, a propagandist will only be impressed to attack those who can stop these movements or who would work to deter them. Therefore just as even Christians are concerned about the great attack against liberty that will cause much more death and pain to all mankind, Valano72, coming as a propagandist has a different concern.

Below first are the words of the video above.  Underneath that are the same words with our comments added that will open your eyes.  She writes:

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/ac/appealchapii.htm Ted Seeber People who are fascists by nature and throughout history always believed that the atrocities they caused and the governments they had that caused them were the actual truest forms of FREEDOM. When we speak of FREEDOM, we're talking about CONSTITUTIONAL liberty. The enemies to it believe what they are supporting is liberty also just as Seeber does, BUT IN THEIR VERSION OF IT!  Seeber had already told us that PERSECUTION IS BIBLICAL!  Seeber told us that true liberty is being able to be put into chains so that we can resist the persecution and prove that we are in liberty. He made this statement in the midst of the following document: [http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=LmQu7.5174%24T%254.390367%40sjcpnn01.usenetserver.com].  Yet he did not include himself nor his brothers to receive this form of liberty he was talking about.  He also called our understanding of liberty: "fake liberty:" That was on one of the posts given in the links above. An official Vatican document sides with this stance by saying: "The church . . . does not, and cannot accept, or in any degree favor, liberty in the Protestant sense of liberty." -- (Catholic World, April, 1870.) "Religious Liberty is merely endured UNTIL THE OPPOSITE CAN BE CARRIED INTO EFFECT WITHOUT PERIL TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." -- (Rt. Rev. O'Connor, Bishop of Pittsburgh.) http://www.TheirSecrets.info/grizogono.htm: The deadliest killers of modern times, the Ustashis of WWII were defended by the Catholic Church.  Their crusades of horrible orgies of death and torture were to make Yugoslavia "100% Catholic." Although the Ustashis of WWII were far more brutal than the Nazis, you are to ask why today's society knows very little about them. The reason for that is because there is a conspiracy, and Rome indeed secretly dominates the world even financially.  If there is a global financial meltdown, know that Rome is behind it!  If there is a lack of prosperity around the world, know that it's not because of natural causes. In the efforts to bring those responsible to justice... "The sentence against Stepinac was answered by the Vatican's Osseruatore Romano denouncing it as "ignominous" and said the "trial was a trial against the Catholic Church". (Ibid., 238) Francis Cardinal Spellman, Archbishop of New York, said that Archbishop Stepinac was "a victim of the forces that seek to destroy men's freedom, ruin America, and dominate the world." (Ibid., 238) He also said the Yugoslav Archbishop had "defended the cause of true liberty for his hungry and harassed people" through the war, adding that the person and principles of Archbishop Stepinac were "VIOLATED"." -- by Rebecca Sexton -- Former Catholics For Christ.  [Note:  Remember the Catholics on the internet telling us that "true liberty" is the Inquisitions?  Remember them saying that I, in exposing Ted Seeber VIOLATED his right to his opinion that all non-Catholics must die irregardless of the fact his views VIOLATED the rights of non-Catholics TO LIVE??  The ones who most attacked me claimed to be non-Catholics and ADVENTISTS!  Besides the Constitution of the United States, what would you suppose they believe is tyranny??  Would they therefore want to make a "WAR ON TERROR??"]  Here we are seeing that even the Inquisitions were regarded by Rome as LIBERTY!  Obviously, they regard the Constitution [as it presently stands and as they say is "interpreted"] as tyranny and Terror!  It prevents them from having the "fun" of torturing and mutilating all who do not accept their dogmas.  They erected a war against the Constitution and all freedom and called it, "THE WAR ON TERROR!"

Why do you fear FEMA Camps? REALLY!

Why are you afraid?

--If you do not believe in God, this isn't for you! Keep your rudeness to yourself please.
Don't bother with nasty comments, I will delete them. --

I see nothing but fear on YouTube about FEMA Camps and the New World Order

I see people who are leading others in their fears.

Everyone wants to "help" and "protect."

They talk about defending their families at the cost of killing the enemy.

Do they really know who the enemy is?

Does it not say the enemy is not flesh and bone but of dark principalities?

Let me explain something to you who may be falling into this propaganda.

There is nowhere through Christ's ministry which advocated a violent retaliation!

Did He not say, You will be persecuted because of me and tortured and killed because of me?

Did he not call for the "endurance of the Saints" during the end times?

There is no doubt we are headed for some very horrible times and many of you are scared. That's normal.

We don't want to think about these things. Our natural instinct is to fight and defend with guns.

But what does God want you to do?

Here's the truth...

How do you know if you aren't meant to go into a FEMA camp to stand as a testimony for weaker Christians?

How do you know if you aren't meant to lead others to a safe place of refuge in the wilderness as Christ said to do?

How do you know if you aren't meant to live or die during these End Days?

Your life is not your own.

When you give your life to Christ, you were meant to take up your cross daily.

Here is what the Holy Spirit has pressed in my heart...

I will help others who are meant to go into the wilderness, where Christ promised safety.

If I am meant to go into captivity (FEMA Camp) then I will go with the Spirit of God in me to stand as light to those who are weaker than I.

I will lay my life down with honor for my Lord.

I will make my life mean something for those who cannot find their courage.

If I am meant to take refuge, and the enemy closes in around me, I will stand with courage and honor and proclaim my place in the Kingdom!

Where is your faith!?

Where is your courage!?

Where is your honor!?

You want to make a difference?

Get out of the city and move to the country, then offer your place to other Christian's as a place of refuge!

On that day, when I come face to face with Yahweh, He will say one of two things to me...

Well, Val... I sent the enemy to you to test your faith in me and you served them with the same aggression?

Did I not promise you many rewards to take up my cross?

Did I not warn you you would be persecuted, mocked and even killed for me?

Did I not send my Son to give you instruction of love and honor for me?

Did He not warn the world of these times?

Did I not ask for the "endurance of the Saints?"

Where was your faith in the face of evil?

Where was your faith when I gave your life a chance to be a testimony for me for those weaker than you?

Or... He will say, Ah, Val! Your life was a true testament for my Son.

You helped others to the truth even in the face of death.

You laid your life down for my Son as He did for you! I am very well pleased.

People wake up! Only we mourn the flesh. God does not.

Now, I certainly don't want to end up in any death camp,

but if that is what God has called me to do. I do it to glorify Him!

Do you realize how many other Christian's will end up in these places?

If YOU do, remember this video on that day and make your life stand for something...

And just maybe, you could save some souls by your courage!

And maybe, you must might be able to bring others to the Lord who may have rejected Him before!

And if you are meant to be a Martyr,

at that moment when your spirit leaves your body, you will join the Army of Angels and battle where the war really is!

The path to righteousness is narrow, and few find it!

God knew you from the beginning of the world. He "placed" you in this time, take comfort in that!
 

NOW THE SAME PROPAGANDA WITH OUR COMMENTS TO EXPOSE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE!...

Why do you fear FEMA Camps? REALLY!

Why are you afraid?

[Every propagandist we saw always has a terrible concern about meanness, rudeness, vitriol or criticism. How then would they fare when they see much worse things like wars taking place and people dying everywhere? Such people not only never work to attack war-mongers or those who would support such horrors, but they are actually one of the causes, for they will only attack people who urge a halt to these things. Is there a comparison to even name-calling and "rudeness" to wars and people--even little children--dying everywhere? She comes with the claim of being a Christian, and has already shown that she can't take "rudeness" or "nastiness." Isn't it great that such "rudeness" or "nastiness" are not found in FEMA camps?]

I see nothing but fear on YouTube about FEMA Camps and the New World Order
[No one else who supports the New World Order fears it either!  But what about her fear that people may work to stop these things. And didn't see fear of No-Fly-Zones that a professing Christian president and others imbibed upon themselves, but thought it natural that the Constitution of the United States should be disregarded. Can't see her own internal fear that people would oppose these camps and treason against the Constitution.]

I see people who are leading others in their fears.
[And not her own that people might stop these oppressive movements. And didn't see Bush leading all America into fears of No-Fly-Zones! In other words, she would respond to harmless fears and be fearful of those fears. HarmFUL fears like fears of No-Fly-Zones that have resulted in the genocide of hundreds of thousands will never bother a propagandist from the Antichrist.]

Everyone wants to "help" and "protect."

They talk about defending their families at the cost of killing the enemy.

Do they really know who the enemy is?

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:08:58 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.321@usa.net>
wrote:

>
>"Susan Williams" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Many have condemned to death all non-Catholics.  Since that doesn't
>> >> bother you, but someone who exposes those people bothers you,

Andrew: But if you do not have Christ__what is accomplished?  (Andrew)

Susan:  >>I guess then the spirit of Atheism will engulf me and teach me to love
>> human life!

Andrew: >The question was...What is accomplished??   And the point is that without
>Him your endeavors will be as   "wood, hay, stubble" accumulating to be
>consumed in the fires of the final day when all of men's works will be tried
>with fire.

Susan: With Christ you will have the sense to know your question has been answered.  
Do Atheists have Christ?  NO!  Well Atheists have regard for human non-Catholic life.  
YOU DON'T! [Though claiming to be an Adventist.  Andrew is blasphemous by joining 
those claiming that Christ gave him his senses and Jesuit judgment.]

Why then are you asking what is accmplished without Christ.  Just look at the life of 
an Atheist and compare it to yours.  Alot of praying all your life will help you reach 
that goal when you are old and gray.

Andrew: >In the economy of heaven, the issue of primary concern is not the temporary
>human life of which you have been ranting,  but the *salvation* of mankind
>whereby they may have unending, eternal life in the soon coming kingdom of
>glory.

[Does she have a youtube video against those who wanted to protect America from Saddam Hussein?  What she's doing here is working for the enemy, trying to make sure they don't get hurt even though those same enemies will kill thousands in the most horrible of ways. Does this poster know who the enemy was when "Christian" Bush told us our sons and daughters are to die for No-Fly-Zones? Where was she when we needed her to attack fears?]

Does it not say the enemy is not flesh and bone but of dark principalities?

[What is she talking about? Is this new light that was not even known since the Civil War? We should have realized Adolf Hitler and the Axis powers were not really the enemy even as we adopt their security principles even using torture today as they are in the Patriot Act? Neither then should Christians who work to stop the FEMA camps be Valano72's fears nor enemies and she shouldn't be wasting her time writing against them! Doesn't she know that even the FEMA camps are being raised by people professing to be Christians? It is then obvious that these "Christians" creating these camps have fears. Did she first tell them about their fears that would make them want to create these camps?]

Let me explain something to you who may be falling into this propaganda.
[Or who may realize that she is in fact the propagandist and, as expected, calling others propagandists to hide her own treason against America.]

There is nowhere through Christ's ministry which advocated a violent retaliation!
[And Christ had nothing to do with the establishment of the American Constitution and even the victories in war that made this a Christian nation of tolerance and liberty? You mean when Paul Revere shouted in the air that the British were coming, they were just supposed to lay down their arms and allow tyranny to dominate the New World too?]

Did He not say, You will be persecuted because of me and tortured and killed because of me?
[And name-called and suffer "nastiness" too? According to Valano72, this means that no Christian should have even stopped Adolf Hitler nor any oppressive force, not even for the rights to read your bible and worship God according to your conscience.  Is she a conscientious objector?  Or is she just lying here!  What is her stance about enlisting in the military?

On the other hand, did Jesus not say that people will be rude to us and name-call us and therefore the video of this propagandist should not be so concerned that humans would be rude neither to her nor even to other war criminals infiltrated into the internet training us how to be sweet after gladly watching false wars and torture without her irritation?]

Did He not call for the "endurance of the Saints" during the end times?
[And that's why both sides during the Civil War were singing hymns?]

There is no doubt we are headed for some very horrible times and many of you are scared. That's normal.
[Isn't that horrible after President Bush told us we must surrender our precious sons and daughters for death in wars to prevent these things and make Helliburton happy?  Instead we should be scared of people who don't like this like she is?? But how can this be when they told us our sons and daughters were dying in wars to make sure there are no horrible times? Is there a chance that these horrible times might be deterred and that this is scaring Valano72 and all other propagandists? Where are her youtube videos opposing the wars and death instead of the "rudeness?"]

We don't want to think about these things. Our natural instinct is to fight and defend with guns.
[I think it is also our Constitutional instincts. That's what the law is there for.  Should Christians obey the law?]

But what does God want you to do?
[Disobey the law and the Constitution?  Maybe He told us something to do in the Constitution of the United States! When you see even end time evils coming, what should you do, even seeing how false wars that are bringing it on are killing thousands upon thousands of innocents that doesn't seem to bother the "Christian" propagandists? Sit quietly and offer no opposition to the people doing this but then become concerned if others want to stop it?]

Here's the truth...
[That waited all through the fears of No-Fly-Zones.  How is it we did something about those No-Fly-Zones and it didn't irritate Valano72?  Why couldn't she tell those involved that No-Fly-Zones were not the enemy?  Why didn't we just endure the No-Fly-Zones?]

How do you know if you aren't meant to go into a FEMA camp to stand as a testimony for weaker Christians?
[Like maybe the divinely ordained Constitution of the United States might give us a different opinion on the matter? Duh!]

How do you know if you aren't meant to lead others to a safe place of refuge in the wilderness as Christ said to do?
[How did Bush know he wasn't meant to lead America to a safe place under the threats of Saddam's WMDs instead of just retaliating against the oppression of Sadam in the No-Fly-Zones? 

One way to lead others to a safe place is to oppose these oppressive movements coming to fruition? Like? How did Moses know his calling to lead others to a safe place, instead of doing what God wanted him to do? How did America know hers even during WWII?]

How do you know if you aren't meant to live or die during these End Days?
[How did the American forefathers know they weren't meant to live and be free when the divinely inspired Constitution of the United States was created in the first place? How do you know Christians didn't have a hand in it?]

Your life is not your own.
[I suppose then it should be owned by war criminals running FEMA camps who may even want sex at any time either!]

When you give your life to Christ, you were meant to take up your cross daily.
[Even "rudeness" and "nastiness?" How then did Christians figure in with this concept all through the history of America? They knew they were meant to disregard the Constitution or consider it a hindrance to the aspirations of Christian life?]

Here is what the Holy Spirit has pressed in my heart...
[That missed most Christians throughout the entire history of America and the Protestant Reformation, but, of course, not their persecutors.]

I will help others who are meant to go into the wilderness, where Christ promised safety.
[Why then is she meant to go into the internet to help oppressors of the Christians?]

If I am meant to go into captivity (FEMA Camp) then I will go with the Spirit of God in me to stand as light to those who are weaker than I.
[But how can that be done when you work for the oppressive officials and treasonous upcoming regime that built them? You sure you will be encouraging Christians in there?]

I will lay my life down with honor for my Lord.
[Even the war-mongers keep saying that but it never happens. Others are pushed into the pit instead. The Russian military knows better than to defend their freedom in Iraq.  Am I wrong for alerting honest Americans about this debacle and treason?  The author here could be on the front lines of Iraq even. But she's so concerned about "rudeness" wars always pass by her propagandist snoot.]

I will make my life mean something for those who cannot find their courage.
[By working for the future oppressors with your propaganda?]

If I am meant to take refuge, and the enemy closes in around me, I will stand with courage and honor and proclaim my place in the Kingdom!
[She is saying, "Don't hide!  Let them capture you!"  They do want to capture you, and Valano72 wants you captured too.  Since propagandists like Valano72 are never found when false wars, injustice and torture are being practiced, but are always found when people don't like such things are around, is your best guess that she will have a place in Christ's kingdom?]

Where is your faith!?
[Where was Mahatma Ghandi's who had a totally different concept and didn't work for war-criminals and oppressors? Where was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s faith?? When people give you the "rudeness" the least you deserve, where is your faith and patience?]

Where is your courage!?
[They're ready to even use guns to save innocent lives and you're asking where's their courage? Didn't bother to seek where courage was when No-Fly-Zones terrified treasonous "Christian" American leaders?]

Where is your honor!?
[Not likely your favored oppressors would notice Christians having honor in your dear FEMA camps either!]

You want to make a difference?
[You mean from all the false wars, torture and death while at the same time language of detainment camps and torture are increasing here at home that impressed you to attack those who don't like it?]

Get out of the city and move to the country, then offer your place to other Christian's as a place of refuge!
[You mean that was even the best solution when Adolf Hitler was advancing? He didn't like RUDE people either, did he?]

On that day, when I come face to face with Yahweh, He will say one of two things to me...
[And more of many things to the FEMA camp oppressors that will give you a chill down your spine as He is talking to them and spelling out their rewards.]

Well, Val... I sent the enemy to you to test your faith in me and you served them with the same aggression?
[Instead of putting down your arms and inviting Adolf Hitler to take over?]

Did I not promise you many rewards to take up my cross?
[Even when people make "rude" comments about your treasonous propaganda postings?  And even to be passive while thousands upon thousands are dying because well-loved oppressors fear No-Fly-Zones?]

Did I not warn you you would be persecuted, mocked and even killed for me?
[But not name-called, nor experiencing "rudeness" and "nastiness?"  Instead of the torture of watching Christians trying to stop the FEMA camps which is an easier torture to bear instead?]

Did I not send my Son to give you instruction of love and honor for me?
[Why are others then trying to stop FEMA camps of torture to millions of people then? They do not love the Lord?  Do these people hate the American people targeted for torture in these camps just because they don't want them to be there?]

Did He not warn the world of these times?
[Did He not warn "Christian" propagandists that true Christians would be rude to her lying internet postings?]

Did I not ask for the "endurance of the Saints?"
[Did He not ask Valano72 to endure the rude postings of truth just as gleefully as she endured false wars and oppressive treason staged by "Christians"?]

Where was your faith in the face of evil?
[Where is yours in the face of the "RUDE" postings you at least richly deserve for your blasphemy even of the intelligence of the Lord Jesus?]

Where was your faith when I gave your life a chance to be a testimony for me for those weaker than you?
[You mean the Lord never gave me that chance in a free environment with the Constitution respected? I would be miserable until there was persecution, else I have no opportunity to give a testimony for those who are weaker than I?]

Or... He will say, Ah, Val! Your life was a true testament for my Son.
[You mean even Peter, John, James and Paul knew back then that Christ's son was Adolf Hitler???]

You helped others to the truth even in the face of death.
[WWI, WWII veterans also did!...  In a very different way!]

You laid your life down for my Son as He did for you! I am very well pleased.
[We wait for Valano72 and all like her to do that first.  Then the problems facing a free America would be gone and FEMA camps would not even come!  We want to even lay down our lives TO STOP THE OPPRESSION THAT WILL COST THE LIVES OF MANY MORE!]

People wake up! Only we mourn the flesh. God does not.
[Like Mother Theresa? Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and others? You mean they work to help people and don't stop oppressors who want them tortured and killed? They were not medical missionaries? They didn't work with the flesh?  They should have just folded their hands and said their battles were not with the flesh?  Christians weren't?  The issue is not the flesh so their physical labors for humanity were in vain?]

Now, I certainly don't want to end up in any death camp,
[You could have fooled me! It looked like it was your aspiration if I didn't already know you actually mean that outcome for everyone else. Folk like you wind up never suffering from such things. The same with the draconian laws against fair trials and humane treatment: those who support it wind up being immune to seeing how it feels.]

but if that is what God has called me to do. I do it to glorify Him!
[And America must have dishonored Him by intercepting the dreams of just Adolf Hitler alone!]

Do you realize how many other Christian's will end up in these places?
[Could it be your efforts and propaganda will aid this situation as you judge other Christians who are not fascists with very rude mischaracterizations?]

If YOU do, remember this video on that day and make your life stand for something...
[Don't be worthless vagabonds like your war-dead who didn't make their lives out of anything to preserve freedom and stop FEMA camps!]

And just maybe, you could save some souls by your courage!
[Maybe I can do it by courage to stop the "darling" FEMA camps and other acts of treason! They were built by propaganda, and therefore those who oppose their fulfillment are not the ones presenting propaganda. We staged wars not for FEMA camps, but for FREEDOM. That's what they said!]

And maybe, you must might be able to bring others to the Lord who may have rejected Him before!
[Maybe I can do that even through working to stop the treason and oppression that will genocide most of the global population!]

And if you are meant to be a Martyr,
[Where does the Constitution of the United States say that, maam?]

at that moment when your spirit leaves your body, you will join the Army of Angels and battle where the war really is!
[Angels work in human form even today to deter oppression.]

The path to righteousness is narrow, and few find it!
[But a propagandist who doesn't stand in the way of oppression but does in the way of those who would stop it, has found righteousness??]

God knew you from the beginning of the world. He "placed" you in this time, take comfort in that!
[He placed us here to do also what we can to stop suffering. That does not mean we have to allow forces of genocide and oppression to keep growing with our consent.]