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PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY TALKS ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY!  He mentions the military when describing that conspiracy!... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dihSro8bddw

General Petraeus:  "We fight for the right for people to have other opinions!"  After the war is waged and good Constitutional soldiers are purged out...  THAT CHANGES!

 

 

 

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Except when they vote in 2006, and the vote was against the war?

Except when we don't like outsourcing of jobs?

Except when we don't like handouts to other countries?

Except when the people don't want America to be a global policeman?

Except when people didn't elect anyone to build a New World Order?

Except when people believe there is a conspiracy?

Except when people want our fighting men and women TO LIVE AND DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS instead of doing it by dying?
 
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You're a real piece of work, you know that?
 
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[Since we can't understand what FASCISM is, we are trying to help you here.  FASCISTS always have different concerns from the human family...]

Tell you what Mr. No Profile....

[They always lust after the person information OF THEIR ENEMIES!  When a person has that kind of passion, then next difference about them is THEY CANNOT REASON.  That is because they can never give an actual reason for their existence before the human family.  Knowing this, they never desire to.  Why then would they volunteer to search the world for terrorists in order to protect us?...]


YOU GOT A LOT OF F#$%^&* NERVE besmirching a man who has done more for this country than YOU COULD EVER DO in six lifetimes.

"Gen. Betrayus" (that's GENERAL Petraeus to you shitbag) has spent his life protecting this Nation and your freedom to speak the assinine CRAP you spout!!!! And you besmirch his name. YOU ARE A MEALY MOUTH CHICKEN **** little bastard who isn't even worthy of the term person. ROTTEN STINKING LITTLE COWARD

ROT IN HELL PUNK
Yeah I know suspension likely.......

[All of America will have to ROT IN HELL, and, as a matter of fact, we are witnessing here why FEMA concentration camps are being built all over because they want America to recover economically.  This is a death wish here.  THEY ARE NOT JUST SHOWING ME WHAT THEY THINK OF ME HERE!  THEY'RE SHOWING ME WHAT THEY THINK OF THE FREE AMERICAN PEOPLE!  Before the wars and all the constant extending of our military, this hatred and fascism was MUCH LESS!]

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WOW! This guy must think I'm Pat Tillman! Simmer down! I'm not Pat Tillman, though my goals are like his for the strength of this country!

You missed many of the issues I had already presented. Is that a disease psychiatrists who like to run detainment camps always have?

Yes, I'm unique in American history: I have no profile!

There's no use ranting the heat.

The war was for "democracy." No one was allowed to mess with America now waging wars to make sure leaders of other countries hear the voice of their people! The American people voted it down. The general's expertise and experience with protection cannot figure out the simple lesson played against the blood of our constitutional soldiers!

[It's not a matter of tactical expertise.  Other members of the military would fill in their expertise for me if I was given very high position.  But, fact of the matter is, there would be no need for such military precision because THERE WOULD BE NO WAR TO END ALL NO-FLY-ZONES if I was in charge of the military.  Osama Bin Laden would be OUT now--NOT SADDAM HUSSEIN!  An independent investigation of 911 would take place RIGHT AWAY!  If 911 took place under my watch after I was already warned, I would do something no Fascist can do...  BLUSH!  I would then not recommend all kinds of rewards I must receive for failing to protect.  If I was in General Petraeus's position and saw these things happening, unless I can view myself as valuable in stopping the fascist nonsense, I well may resign.]

We went there for WMDs. We feared defeated dictators. North Korea glorified their WMDs in our faces and dared us to do something about it. We seemed to have missed this like so many simple questions that would put the whole issue to rest and expose the treason.

The war itself was not even justified since the one who claimed to have the power to wage it demanded such power because he failed to protect the homeland. I could figure that out, why can't all the experts? He claims he must torture for vital information that can save lives, but listened not even to the American people who gave him the vital information that Osama caused 911 and not Saddam. He waged wars for "democracy" but the American vote in 2006 is just as invisible to him as it is to you while our soldiers die.

The General may have done well to protect us throughout history, but Janitors can now do much more by merely stating what he refused to listen to:

We don't want protection from defeated dictators, nor corpses in morturaries. A defeated dictator is invincible due to the fact that no more victories can be scored against him. Corpses in morturaries are invincible because only a few and the criminally insane can score adrenaline rush victories over them. Both Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney prophesies the fallacy of going in to attack Iraq already defeated. Their own prophecies were extremely accurate.

All these experts in security saw 911 take place and watched as the major independent investigation took place 1 to 2 years later. If you will therefore forgive me then: I WOULD MAKE A BETTER GENERAL!!

Even the president would not be proudly showing pictures of his failure to protect at 911 for re-election if I was in charge of security. If he did that, he would be OUT! Twill come with anyone in charge of security sleeping on the job or being outwitted and then being proud of it.

If such a person refuses to testify plainly in person, alone and under oath, the most indignant in the military would not convince me in a free country that he would protect the homeland better than I can.

Yours is just a typical rant without dealing with the issues. You merely say the ones causing the Great Eagle to go haywire over 19 hijackers have experience, now ignoring their horrifying experience at "bungling," regressing us back to the directives of America's long-time enemies, and even "treason."

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All of the points must be considered to know the truth. Propagandists will always be completely blind to most of the points, but will then claim they must be believed because they have good profiles. Maybe it's better to have no profile than one stained with the blood of far more people than what Ted Bundy killed, even defending the indefensible!

I know you will ignore this question, but, in exactly what manner will you celebrate winning this five year conflict with an already defeated dictator under no-fly-zones for invisible WMDS? Can you imagine how depressed the terrorists are for powerful America already making smoke of them? (Especially when their leader can have Thanksgiving parties every year?) You can compare it to the victory at WWII where everyone was hugging and kissing each other.

Please don't forget to add the cost of the war, including the blood shed and the persistent spitting on the Constitution, the document the wars were supposed to defend.

It doesn't matter how even tactically superior any of the military are above me. The simple "mistakes" they have made which no one, according to the propagandists, in a free country can call "treason" would make me a better person for the job of security and maintaining the lives of our troops and the Constitution. It would make any American living in 1950 much better for security than the ones leading us after the security principles of the Communists and Nazis, having the same mindless minds and missing the same easy issues anyone can understand.

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America never did the things nor accepted the positions she is now accepting over and above the disapproval of the people. Because of the infiltration, credentials will be shown to somehow prove honest Americans are the "new boys on the block" then persistently bringing us principles of security really as old as the Communists and Nazis. It is not our fault even that Osama is free today. It is not our profiles nor credentials that is bankrupting us to fund his Thanksgiving celebrations every year.

We are neither the weird ones nor new boys on the block. We are not the foreigners. We did not look at Communist and Nazi security principles then scream that 19 hijackers mean we have to accept them!

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"profile stained with blood"? Yeah of our enemies.

[Does he mean Osama will be bleeding while he's sipping martinis in some Pakistani safe-haven right now?]

You freaks [The American people] are always talking about losing freedoms [Instead of them complaining they might lose their WMDS if their comrades don't die on the front lines!].....Give me ONE EXAMPLE of a freedom or right being taken away....You can't.

[Give me one example of how Saddam Hussein can use his rubber duckey as he's wallowing in no-fly-zones to destroy the country that beat him into there?....You can't!]

You know why? Because you haven't lost any....

[We shouldn't stage pre-emptive war!  You know why?  Because Saddam Hussein hasn't attacked and destroyed us from behind his no-fly-zones!  Why then should we attack him to "save America?"  They told us we must not wait for tragedies in order to act.  We therefore complain now about the steady rules for security coming in that follow the exact blueprint of the Inquisitions and then the Communists and then the Nazis.]

Not that you know much about them other than running your suck.......When did you serve? DID you serve? Probably not.

[I'm serving now MORE VALUABLY THAN MANY FIGHTING!  If only the fascist mind didn't work day and night to cloud it over.  George Galloway in cooperation with the Anti-war movement in Britain never served in the American military, but he still more valuably served it than each soldier individually in the US military.  He gave the world COMMON NON-FASCIST SENSE.  If only fascists and war-mongers were on the front lines and in every war!  Just a few words and thoughts could have saved much wasting of valuable life and FREEDOM would have been preserved.  If they listened to me, TRILLIONS of dollars would still be in America's coffers!  Investigation of 911 would take place RIGHT AWAY!  Even now, we would put attention to the tragedy of Bush's "Pre-emptive war" policy Adolf Hitler already had and prevent even more tragedies to come!

MORE ARE COMING!!]

Yet YOU think you could do a better job?

[ABSOLUTELY!  I would have prevented America from discovering the power of already defeated dictators and saved hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi lives.  The responsibility for these lives will never be erased from America--it doesn't matter how many "let's move forward!"(s) President Obama screams.]

You couldn't lead piss down the sewer.....

[If I was in charge, solders would never have to in landfills nor ever piss there!]

You are a pathetic excuse for an individual.....

[Imagine!  Going to war to defend our freedoms to think, be different, AND, LIKE ME, HOLD THE MAINSTREAM VIEWS OF AMERICA!  All that merits me is being told I'm pathetic by a mindless fascist wearing our uniforms.

Hey, the discussions are right there.  Isn't it plain even throughout this website that fascists cannot work with our discussions?  He can't even answer why his other fascist comrade told the whole forum that no one can understand my posts, and he is embarrassing himself proving that he understands it.]

My name and hometown are always listed, maybe you could take a trip to the Big Island and discuss this with me in person......

[THIS IS FASCISM!  And indeed much of America will have to TRY TO discuss reason with fascists even wearing their own uniforms in just the near future!]

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STAGE I: Let's deal with exactly one thing at a time so that your victims can understand the truth. If you are not willing to deal with the points and tests that I give, just assume like the other propagandist that no one can understand my posts and go your way! In detention camps is where rantings and hate will rule the day, but even there will always only be temporary.

1. Osama attacks us at 911. I would go after Osama and no one else till he is caught.

What would you do? What would your profile, your years of service or your credentials tell you to do?

Here is another person who praises the wars and is animated by the same feelings you have. Although he claims our troops are dying for our freedoms, he constantly claims that a night of blood is coming on America where he will participate in the murders of many people:

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/ac/appealchapleowest.htm
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/ac/appealchapleowest2.htm
 
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STAGE I: Let's deal with exactly one thing at a time so that your victims can understand the truth. If you are not willing to deal with the points and tests that I give, just assume like the other propagandist that no one can understand my posts and go your way! In detention camps is where rantings and hate will rule the day, but even there will always only be temporary.

1. Osama attacks us at 911. I would go after Osama and no one else till he is caught.

What would you do? What would your profile, your years of service or your credentials tell you to do?

Here is another person who praises the wars and is animated by the same feelings you have. Although he claims our troops are dying for our freedoms, he constantly claims that a night of blood is coming on America where he will participate in the murders of many people:

http://www.TheirSecrets.info/ac/appealchapleowest.htm
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/ac/appealchapleowest2.htm

Me? Prosecute the war 'till all our enemies are dead. But that's just me.

[He saw the links showing the death threats!  In case any of you don't believe this, then you shouldn't be surprised that he saw Weapons of Mass Destruction that weren't there.

He is a JESUIT!]

Your sources are crap, as is your viewpoint. Troll your little azz away now.........................

[Most Americans ARE IN TROUBLE!  Imagine him dying so that we as Americans can differ with his beliefs and be CRAP.]

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Osama attacks us at 911. What would you do first? What war? What promise to capture him "dead or alive" as the "pathetic" American people came before the man who failed to protect against a terrorist he had long ties and business dealings with? If Osama attacks and you can't shoot straight to aim at him, you might aim perfectly and hit Pat Tillman!

Were guys like you around Pat Tillman? Are guys like you around many more of our fighting men and women who can both see and notice the worst public death threats of terrorism? You again missed the worst public death threats of terrorism that make Ted Bundy look like Mr. Rogers of Mr. Roger's Neighborhood! If I'm promoted to General, would I miss these threats too?

These are Bush and war supporters! Wouldn't you be more angry with people in your own ranks supporting what you support who blurt out that a worse terror is coming while praising the war at the same time and happily claiming that our constitutional men and women are dying for our freedoms?

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Banned for what??? Attacking other people?

For "tearing down America?" For reporting terrorist threats and being a good American?
 
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Hey, there are Bad Boys even in Russia right now. What are their opinions on the issues we are here discussing since we are following them and abiding by their security principles? But then if we're following them in their security principles, why are we determined that our fighting men and women must "DIE FOR OUR FREEDOMS," and they have better sense than to maintain their freedoms that way? Why are the numbers of our fighting men who support the Constitution getting less and less while their military is completely unextended and unharmed?

When will they want to follow us and learn what freedom is while they watch us freak out over defeated dictators, invisible WMDs terrifying 2006 election results, etc?
 
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tmac, this is a recommendation to change your posts from being provocative to something more reasonable.

[Actually the moderator has to do this.  He's being pressured.  He doesn't believe that differing viewpoints can do serious damage to ones sperm count, BUT THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS WHEN FASCISTS ARE AROUND.

The rules of the forum states that they have to respect the Commander in Chief.  We therefore have to do the same.  See if you can see the situation.  For now President Obama is the Commander in Chief promising to be a diametric about-face from GW Bush.  You see a tragedy here.  Is the military supposed to be vacillating?  Are they supposed to wear one wig one day and another wig another day?]

Your multiple threads are not a good contribution to the discussions that occur here, your borderline slander is causing a lot of heartburn with some of the Veterans here, and this needs to change.

[One thing though is, he cannot show any form of understanding to the fact that his fascist comrades lied and posted that no one can understand what I posted--a typical tactic of all the propagandists we always meet on the internet who can't stand us if we show links that point to bold public death threats against all non-Catholics.  How can my posts offend anyone if no one can understand them?]

If you continue to post as you have been, you will receive a 10 day warning, and if you continue after that your Privileges will be suspended for 10 days.

This is not a threat, but a statement of possible action. This website has Terms Of Service, which you agreed to follow when you became a member. If you do not follow them, action will be taken.

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Yeah, Ted!!!!

[This is the fascist who said no one can understand my posts.  Notice the relief from the torture of not knowing what I posted.  A very different kind of torture from what guys like him delivered at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and what they have long been planning to inflict even here at home when enough of their Constitutional-loving comrades are killed.]

 
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tmac, this is a recommendation to change your posts from being provocative to something more reasonable.

Your multiple threads are not a good contribution to the discussions that occur here, your borderline slander is causing a lot of heartburn with some of the Veterans here, and this needs to change.

If you continue to post as you have been, you will receive a 10 day warning, and if you continue after that your Privileges will be suspended for 10 days.

This is not a threat, but a statement of possible action. This website has Terms Of Service, which you agreed to follow when you became a member. If you do not follow them, action will be taken.

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Re: The above advice offered...

I highly advise you, the author of this topic as well as the author of the other disruptive and asinine topics posted that you heed the advice offered by the Moderator.

[Best if GW Bush had informed us that we have to think one way and all acquire the disease of epilepsy if we see no-fly-zones.

Is it true our own soldiers can actually BITTERLY HATE US if we even struggle to keep them out of false wars, landfills and attending Osama Bin Laden's Thanksgiving dinners every year???

YES!!!  The further back you go to where the wars started is the more they love free Americans.  The further military activity is progressed especially for false wars is the more they hate us.]

Right now, you have stirred up one helluva hornet's nest with your trash-talk...

[FASCISTS are never interested in proving their lies.  They are always content with having a lack of ever explaining their existence.]

the contents you posted are nothing but disruptive, inflammatory, non-contributative drivel...in addition, your openly disgusting and demeaning slaps targeting our men and women serving, as well as towards the membership therein this site.

[FASCISTS ALWAYS put their own characteristics on good Americans.  Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. showed that all war-mongers always must portray upon the innocent their own hatred of the free United States military and tell the world those who don't like war hates our soldiers!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80Bsw0UG-U
Famous Speech by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. against the Vietnam War, April 4, 1967.  See the actual text here.  He talks about the war-mongering habit of accusing those who hate war with hating our soldiers.

"Now, of course, one of the difficulties in speaking out today grows the fact that there are those who are seeking to equate dissent with disloyalty. It's a dark day in our nation when high-level authorities will seek to use every method to silence dissent. But something is happening, and people are not going to be silenced. The truth must be told, and I say that those who are seeking to make it appear that anyone who opposes the war in Vietnam is a fool or a traitor or an enemy of our soldiers is a person that has taken a stand against the best in our tradition." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



It is highly advised that you retract the disruptive material you posted,and offer a full and complete public apology towards the site membership.


The clock is ticking... Wink

 
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Banned for what??? Attacking other people?

For "tearing down America?" For reporting terrorist threats and being a good American?


For posting numerous disruptive and demeaning material within the forum and site, in violation of the Terms of Usage...rules that you allegedly agreed to as an integeral part of accepting membership on this site.

[Fascists will repeat and repeat.  That's why their cult, clan, treason and damage has survived to this day till THEY ARE NOW IN RATHER FULL CONTROL!]


The paragraph in particular is: Paragraph 6, Terms of Usage...

Read it!

 
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Moderator sir,

I appreciate your kindness and tolerance. But due to the fact that there is nothing in the Terms of Service that prohibits lying, some will assuredly do well here, or at least have longevity here, while others will not. I understand you have not banned me, but it's best that I at least lie low.

I am not willing to get on your bad side since it is quite obvious that discussion, however seeming deviant, does not bother you. I merely stated that my ideas do not hurt the military for they were in practice for most of the existence of America. My idea was that the Constitution protected us for over 200 years ever while Muslim terrorists were still always all around. If all that time we could not notice that we don't need anything extra that would wind up sending us backward for the most minor of threats, we are not at least competent enough to know which direction we should follow now.

When radical things are inserted, then there is a problem which can cause an identity crisis. By this a time could come where true Americans may be viewed as treasonous or terrorists when the exact opposite is true. Trouble can be caused by a stimulus, but it can also be caused by a response.

I can tell you were also tolerant because you also wanted to see if the challenges brought by me could be met. I am sure others looked to see if the issues I brought could be explained or countered. They were denied this. It was not like watching the judge programs like Judge Judy, Wapner, Mills Lane or Matthis, where questions are asked and answers are demanded not even just for the benefit of those judges, but especially for the witnessing public. The more the public watches is the more they learn how to think. But most forums now discredit those shows since those shows readily dispatched anyone who wasted the time of the people and couldn't directly answer the simplest of questions. If any litigant covered-up evidence, that was an automatic assumption of guilt, and everyone except the individual litigants always agreed. Any question that is persistently evaded made the judges on those programs to know where the guilty party was and when they were lied to. It was not only the judges who knew. All the viewers even on TV understood where the guilty party was. What I received directly, however, from my opponents was not discussion.

One easy thing that can be noted though is the fact that what I speak most of the American population subscribe to, including the idea that 911 is planned. How will this fact be avoided? The choice I encountered from the participants on the forum with how to deal with this unfortunate circumstance is to attack and heckle. This should bring serious reflection if that in fact angers veteran members of the military, and responses these participants gave to me also violated the terms of service.

Through discussion the truth can be found. True discussion hurts no one. But some say, "But you're speaking against the United States Military! encouraging treason, sedition and insurrecton!" But by using the words and thoughts of the United States Military through its entire history up to the year 2001?? Just five years after defeating the Axis powers, then being told we have to adopt what for security? We have to adopt what changes with just five years passing and horrible memories still fresh? For me to then have the power to ressurrect all the fallen Vietnam and WWII vets to have them to understand the arguments we are having today? You think they would be confused like how we now are? How would we survive under the policy that we must avoid trouble if I was able to ressurrect those fallen vets? Those vets would cast their eyes on those making the changes. They will not take their eyes off of them. Fear will run in the hearts of those now making the changes, and they would read what would happen to them very quickly.

Then 3,000 die at 911. Time has passed and I ressurrect those 3,000. What do you think they would ask? "After we died, you're going after who to avenge our deaths??? You have lost your freakin' minds!!! Who refused to testify under the investigation? That investigation over our graves did not take place right away? Evidence was covered up??? Data was destroyed??? This was for 'national security'??? Pictures of our deaths were proudly used for re-election campaigns???" I would have nothing to fear with a major ressurrection of all our fallen vets in former wars. I would have nothing to fear in a ressurrection of all the victims of 911. It would be odd for their families to be upset with me now.

If we don't think like the people and then make every effort to show we never will nor will we care, we still ought to consider what we're going to do about the guilt of blood we thirsted so much for and what this will do to our country whether we like it or not.

We already paid a great expense just recently. It's going to be hard to convince everyone that everyone will pay this expense whether they agreed with what was done or not. Events are worked out where those responsible will not be held culpable by any human hand. But they still will have to bear responsibility anyway. The longer this waits will be the more tragic their reward, but we will share the great cost they forced us into. The time will come when nothing will be more pressing on our minds than the thought of what might have been had we not just stood there and let them work their will. It is also a natural law of life that if we learn to tolerate or court those who cause us problems we will eventually learn how to condemn those in whom the solutions are found.

People prophecied that tragedy will come upon America even while claiming our soldiers are put in harm's way to prevent it. Time will prove that those prophecies, however horrible, will come true.

Thank you for your patience,

Ted McMillan
http://www.TheirSecrets.info

Today in concentration camps for no profiles. Tomorrow for no microchips!

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Mr. McMillan, thanks for your reply.

In regards to your first paragraph, please consider the Terms Of Service, 6(viii), to wit: "constitutes or contains false or misleading indication of origin or statement of fact".

Regarding the rest of your reply, there are many details to reflect on as all of us look back into history, and this is one place to engage others as to when and why. Some answers may never be known, but that's not for us to control.

[They did not engage in discussion BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT!  Fascists always disrespected the human family throughout history as their fathers operated dungeons, then concentration camps.  With readers watching what is written, it just shows that their children have not changed.  If something I said is wrong, enter the discussion and show ALL THE WITNESSES WHO ARE STILL FREE what the truth is INSTEAD OF STILL BEING A BUNCH OF FASCISTS unfortunately in our uniforms.  Be a little perturbed also that one fascist said no one can understand what my posts say to then show that you understand what they say.]

Please remember that many who participate in these discussions lost friends or relatives on 11 September, and to choose words that could be taken by others as provocative or that suggest conspiracy will not give you a solid foundation in these discussions.

[So they should be offended because I said an independent investigation of 911 should take place RIGHT AWAY?  They're offended because I pointed to the fact that even GW Bush can still today secretly attend Osama Bin Laden's Thanksgiving dinners today while their relatives who suffered at 911 can't?]

Have an excellent rest of the week.

Regards,
Gypsysnipe

 
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[Again the typical disease and problems that FASCISTS have...]

The real problem is you are a no profile having TROLL who has the audacity to come here and talk scheit about someone who has served this country for many years.

[And the further back you go is the more the United States government and military were not interested in everyone's private information!  They talked the same kind of scheit back through most of its history that I now do.]

You are a complete *****king idiot and if I get suspended for it, so be it.

[I'm a free American!  Since when did infiltrating fascists want to kiss us??]

I am tired of you TROLLS coming here with your anti-U.S, anti-military slander coming here and doing nothing but provoking people with your moronic posts.

[That no one can understand?  Is the American military tired of DEFENDING FREEDOM?  Or did they not like it all along??  THE MORE THEY FIGHT IN NONSENSE WARS IS THE MORE THEY HATE IT!  We already demonstrated why on this website.  We're trying to show, these are FASCISTS!  All of them are CATHOLIC, or rather, JESUITS!]

Especially annoying when most of you TROLLS have never put the uniform on for even one day- at least not a uniform that didn't have Burger King or Mc D's on it.

[AGAIN PUTTING ON A UNIFORM FOR ME IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR FEARING NO-FLY-ZONES AND LOVING LANDFILLS!  Why put it on at all if you're not defending the freedom for you to see every idiot, TROLL and ASS around?  Qualified merely for disagreeing with a fascist.]

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Originally posted by tmac1238:
Moderator sir,

I appreciate your kindness and tolerance. But due to the fact that there is nothing in the Terms of Service that prohibits lying, some will assuredly do well here, or at least have longevity here, while others will not. I understand you have not banned me, but it's best that I at least lie low.

I am not willing to get on your bad side since it is quite obvious that discussion, however seeming deviant, does not bother you. I merely stated that my ideas do not hurt the military for they were in practice for most of the existence of America. My idea was that the Constitution protected us for over 200 years ever while Muslim terrorists were still always all around. If all that time we could not notice that we don't need anything extra that would wind up sending us backward for the most minor of threats, we are not at least competent enough to know which direction we should follow now.

When radical things are inserted, then there is a problem which can cause an identity crisis. By this a time could come where true Americans may be viewed as treasonous or terrorists when the exact opposite is true. Trouble can be caused by a stimulus, but it can also be caused by a response.

I can tell you were also tolerant because you also wanted to see if the challenges brought by me could be met. I am sure others looked to see if the issues I brought could be explained or countered. They were denied this. It was not like watching the judge programs like Judge Judy, Wapner, Mills Lane or Matthis, where questions are asked and answers are demanded not even just for the benefit of those judges, but especially for the witnessing public. The more the public watches is the more they learn how to think. But most forums now discredit those shows since those shows readily dispatched anyone who wasted the time of the people and couldn't directly answer the simplest of questions. If any litigant covered-up evidence, that was an automatic assumption of guilt, and everyone except the individual litigants always agreed. Any question that is persistently evaded made the judges on those programs to know where the guilty party was and when they were lied to. It was not only the judges who knew. All the viewers even on TV understood where the guilty party was. What I received directly, however, from my opponents was not discussion.

One easy thing that can be noted though is the fact that what I speak most of the American population subscribe to, including the idea that 911 is planned. How will this fact be avoided? The choice I encountered from the participants on the forum with how to deal with this unfortunate circumstance is to attack and heckle. This should bring serious reflection if that in fact angers veteran members of the military, and responses these participants gave to me also violated the terms of service.

Through discussion the truth can be found. True discussion hurts no one. But some say, "But you're speaking against the United States Military! encouraging treason, sedition and insurrecton!" But by using the words and thoughts of the United States Military through its entire history up to the year 2001?? Just five years after defeating the Axis powers, then being told we have to adopt what for security? We have to adopt what changes with just five years passing and horrible memories still fresh? For me to then have the power to ressurrect all the fallen Vietnam and WWII vets to have them to understand the arguments we are having today? You think they would be confused like how we now are? How would we survive under the policy that we must avoid trouble if I was able to ressurrect those fallen vets? Those vets would cast their eyes on those making the changes. They will not take their eyes off of them. Fear will run in the hearts of those now making the changes, and they would read what would happen to them very quickly.

Then 3,000 die at 911. Time has passed and I ressurrect those 3,000. What do you think they would ask? "After we died, you're going after who to avenge our deaths??? You have lost your freakin' minds!!! Who refused to testify under the investigation? That investigation over our graves did not take place right away? Evidence was covered up??? Data was destroyed???" I would have nothing to fear with a major ressurrection of all our fallen vets in former wars. I would have nothing to fear in a ressurrection of all the victims of 911. It would be odd for their families to be upset with me now.

If we don't think like the people and then make every effort to show we never will nor will we care, we still ought to consider what we're going to do about the guilt of blood we thirsted so much for and what this will do to our country whether we like it or not.

We already paid a great expense just recently. It's going to be hard to convince everyone that everyone will pay this expense whether they agreed with what was done or not. Events are worked out where those responsible will not be held culpable by any human hand. But they still will have to bear responsibility anyway. The longer this waits will be the more tragic their reward, but we will share the great cost they forced us into. The time will come when nothing will be more pressing on our minds than the thought of what might have been had we not just stood there and let them work their will. It is also a natural law of life that if we learn to tolerate or court those who cause us problems we will eventually learn how to condemn those in whom the solutions are found.

People prophecied that tragedy will come upon America even while claiming our soldiers are put in harm's way to prevent it. Time will prove that those prophecies, however horrible, will come true.

Thank you for your patience,

Ted McMillan
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Gypsysnipe: Applause Very Diplomatic. Much Patience shown by you.


Infantry32:--- Big Grin Bingo...especially the comment about the uniforms!
 
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To the "person" who posted this waste of space post.You don't remotely qualify to attack any person in the US armed forces,let alone the good General.PIZZ OFF!

[I didn't attack ANY person in the US Armed forces.  Neither did Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

If you can't see bold death threats against all who are not Catholic, YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN THE HISTORICALLY GREATEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD!

I don't mind comparing Russia's long-rested military so that I can look like an ass in the eye of every fascist.  Trying to stop them in the American military from chasing no-fly-zones so they can lose their clean bill of mental health from fascists is a service to them.]

 
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